Compare new and old Photos
#1
Posted 11 October 2008 - 07:23 PM
Here is my first attempt. I hope to get better at this. (Please do try this yourselves) This is a scan of one of my thousand or so post cards I have collected of old Fort Worth. This is a scan of West 7th street around Main Street. Trees in the way of course. you will notice there is no Palace Theater. (Welcome the Carter Burgess Building where the Aviation Building used to be.) Many other differences, like the Barnett building appearing in the distance. I think that bank is Dell Frisco's Steak House.
Oh Ya, the 1966, 67 cars are replaced by a Japanese hybrid. (Standing by for my Chevy Volt. A real electric) Movie at the Palace? Wild in the Streets. Wild.
#2
Posted 11 October 2008 - 08:51 PM
I believe the Majestic Theatre used to stand where the A/C mechanical building for the Convention Center is today.
Very nifty comparison, by the way!!
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#3
Posted 11 October 2008 - 09:06 PM
I believe the Majestic Theatre used to stand where the A/C mechanical building for the Convention Center is today.
Very nifty comparison, by the way!!
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Wow. I spent an hour with that old post card today and I still called the Palace the Majestic. Therein lies the reason I am not a detective. Really.
BTW I went in and edited my post so if people then read your post and think you had it wrong they should know that! I probably shouldn't do that but I can't help it.
#4
Posted 12 October 2008 - 02:37 PM
I think I got the card shot pretty good. Let's take a look, shall we?
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#5
Posted 12 October 2008 - 03:16 PM
#6
Posted 12 October 2008 - 07:27 PM
#7
Posted 14 October 2008 - 01:34 PM
President Kennedy did speak in that ballroom. I was there.
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#8
Posted 21 October 2008 - 07:42 PM
At first glance you may think I blew it with getting my location correct. I didn't. (now put your GPS enabled laser measuring device away, I mean close enough.) It is mostly that problem with the trees I talked about in a post above.
Now here is another shot where I cheated and moved to the right several feet to look around some pretty big trees. May actually be a better comparison even if not in the exact location.
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#9
Posted 21 October 2008 - 09:05 PM
#10
Posted 21 October 2008 - 09:14 PM
#11
Posted 21 October 2008 - 09:53 PM
Sure enough. You caught me on the date... Without knowing the information you provided about facts of the buildings and their time-line, another check of the picture pointed to later model cars. I know my cars very well. (Much better than I know my buildings for sure) and I quickly spotted a 1963 Chevy and worse yet, a 1967 Chevy!
I just guessed at the 1960 based on the 1950's cars I see. I do think that back then, a greater percentage of cars may have been 10 years old.
And funny, I did not know the At&T building had 5 floors added to it. It makes me laugh when I think about taking the pic and thinking, "no, I'm still too close" based on the relationship between that building and the Flatiron Building. Never occurred to me that the buildings that I was fairly familiar with had changed that much. Don't remember ever hearing that before... and to think that it is one of the few buildings that would have looked better had they removed 5 floors. Or more.
#12
Posted 21 October 2008 - 10:09 PM
I'm glad you brought that up. I have similar thoughts on the tree scene Downtown. I am and have always been a big tree fan, but Downtown Downtown may be another matter. The old pictures of the City absolutely do look more urban and city-like. I know of many streets where the trees are really covering up some fantastic buildings. I have wondered if they either need to be cut down or trimmed like crazy. And I really do love trees. In fact, I just planted 2 live Oaks at my business. (They really look great and necessary but have a lot of space, not taking over a sidewalk.)
The trick may be trees that stay in the teenager stage... kind of small. At least the sidewalk trees in front of buildings. Maybe we could bind their roots like they used to bind Chinese girl's feet. Another side benefit would surely be less of a bird problem. A huge problem. Save those huge trees for the parks etc...
In fact, I am going to do some comparison pics with old pics where it is really obvious that the trees have become too much of the City look. Stand-by...
#13
Posted 22 October 2008 - 07:38 AM
A good example of what happens when you remove the parking, convert the street to a traffic sewer, and *don't* install street trees is 7th Street from Burnett Park through the heart of downtown. It's noticeably less pleasant to walk it with four lanes of (often speeding) cars barreling past with no barrier of any sort. (It's doubly worse because 7th has been made one-way, which combined with the lack of barriers along the sidewalk further encourages speeding.)
And there's a general feeling that we have to "green up" everything in this country. Trees covering the streets of downtown is one example (another being the ridiculous berms and juniper shrub "nature band-aids" that try to disguise your typical suburban big-box store's depressing-ness). A great space doesn't require greening - the plaza in front of the Pantheon in Rome, for example, has few (or no) green things in it at all, but it's a fantastic space nonetheless. The architecture does the job of being wonderful.
Of course, when you introduce four lanes of cars a la, say, Houston Street, with no street parking, the trees are worthwhile in terms of physical and psychological separation between pedestrians and cars.
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Kara B.
#14
Posted 22 October 2008 - 08:08 AM
Finally, thanks Atomic Glee for these great pictures. They bring back a lot of great memories.
#15
Posted 22 October 2008 - 07:00 PM
#16
Posted 23 October 2008 - 08:53 PM
Let's take a look, shall we?
Picture pulled temporarily while I re-do.
#17
Posted 24 October 2008 - 12:29 PM
280 Spur going west into downtown - 1963
2008 - New photo that better replicates the angle.
I'll see how these show up before posting others since I'm not sure how to post photos.
#18
Posted 24 October 2008 - 12:44 PM
Looking south on Hemphill just north of Magnolia 1930s
2007
#19
Posted 24 October 2008 - 12:50 PM
Looking north on I35 from Berry St. bridge - 1958
2007
You can no longer see the houses on the right top, but they are still present.
#20
Posted 24 October 2008 - 12:53 PM
Post Office 1930s
2007
#21
Posted 24 October 2008 - 01:22 PM
Wow! Amazing job Mr. Phillips! I've been photographically humiliated. (And putting the new ones in B&W is just a plain unconscionable advantage...) I may be too embarrassed to continue. Cripes.
I wonder where those great old photo's came from? Your really nailed the angles and focal lengths etc...
I hope your shots can go beyond this Forum. Many of those business owners would love such comparisons.
I am surprised how incredibly little the Post Office has changed. By my eyeballs, the only difference is that the wind shifted the flag from North to South. (And now I'm surprised you didn't Photoshop the flag to come from the same direction... pretty sloppy on your part!) Really, seeing what has not changed is at least as fun as seeing what has.
I should give up now on doing more of these comparisons now that you have set the bar too high, but I must continue... and when I copy your techniques, be polite and don't notice.
A+ Do some more!
#22
Posted 24 October 2008 - 01:52 PM
#23
Posted 24 October 2008 - 04:59 PM
#24
Posted 24 October 2008 - 05:36 PM
Does anybody know if Trinity Terrace is a decent retirement home?
Now my only question is, are you the first person to discover this? Or have other Forum Members noticed and let me wallow in my shame?
That comparison has been driving me nuts. Just didn't get it. As my comparison photo was so old, I just figured EVERYTHING changed.
And to try to garner an understanding for my complete laps of geographical adaptivity, I am driven nuts by this... I live in the Tower. 500 Throckmorton St. But the only resident entrance is on Taylor Street. So I figure the block to the East is Houston street. In fact there is no entrance to the Tower on Throckmorton St. except for a restaurant.
BTW, I took my original comparison pic down to avoid unnecessary confusion. And stand-by for a good comparison replacement.
Anyway, if you see me wandering aimlessly Downtown this evening please point me to my home or call my wife, whom has her phone number pinned to my bib...
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Posted 24 October 2008 - 09:57 PM
#26
Posted 25 October 2008 - 07:38 PM
#27
Posted 26 October 2008 - 12:11 PM
http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/0962984116
I thought that Pete came up with a pretty smart idea, as the subject matter of the book appeals to to serious tourists and Washington has more than it's share of these every year. Looks like a pretty good way to set up a retirement income stream (better than 401-k's at this point in time I would venture).
#28
Posted 28 October 2008 - 01:47 PM
Looking north on Jones at 16th - probably 1920s
2008
#29
Posted 28 October 2008 - 03:02 PM
I don' know the date, but you can see the northern Bass tower under construction. I don't remember if the southern tower was also underconstruction and we just can't see it yet or if it came later.
2008. Now we can clearly see the southern tower and just a piece of the northern tower, since the addition to the base of the old Ft. Worth Natn Bldg (now The Towers) obstructs the view. Large shadow of a building across the street in foreground of older photo is now missing because the building has been torn down and is now a parking lot.
#31
Posted 28 October 2008 - 04:38 PM
Those are great pics, you have been holding out on us.
Keep them coming. You really do capture that feeling of being there.
D
#32
Posted 29 October 2008 - 11:21 AM
Looking east on the West Freeway - 1958
2008. When the freeway was widened, there were new bridges, changes in grade, etc. that makes a decent comparison photo unobtainable. Comment has been made about the increase in trees downtown and that is also apparent in this area of FW.
#33
Posted 29 October 2008 - 12:25 PM
Fire Station #5, 500 block of Bryan Ave - unknown date
2008
#34
Posted 29 October 2008 - 02:24 PM
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 03:24 PM
#36
Posted 29 October 2008 - 03:52 PM
#37
Posted 30 October 2008 - 11:21 AM
I think that's the Chapel Hill shopping center on the west side of Hulen that you're seeing in the present day shot.
#38
Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:29 PM
#39
Posted 30 October 2008 - 01:32 PM
Looking S on Main at Kress Bldg - 1936
2008. Damn trees!
#40
Posted 30 October 2008 - 03:19 PM
It appears in your imaging.. there far more number of cars in the older photo.
I wonder what the air polutions ratings were back then.
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#41
Posted 30 October 2008 - 03:55 PM
It appears in your imaging.. there far more number of cars in the older photo.
I wonder what the air polutions ratings were back then.
Each one of those cars polluted about 20 times more than a modern car. So let's see, 20 times the cars times 20 times the pollution. (Crap, what did I do with my calculator.)
LOTS of pollution. I am always amazed at the old pictures where you can't see a few blocks down.
Add to that lead and other heavy metals pouring from the smokestacks... No wonder they died young.
Now to the Master, Phil Phillips. Surely he does this exact thing for a living. Can't be trial and error. (my way) Talk about nailing it! Just amazingly good comparisons. He must be using the exact same camera etc... I am wanting to do some more comparisons myself but it is like someone saying, "Here is a football. Go out in the field and throw few passes back and forth to Tony Romo." Yikes...
I not only didn't nail it, but I was even on the wrong street in my last attempt!
#42
Posted 30 October 2008 - 04:08 PM
Thanks for the kind comments, monee. I think I am going to wait until the leaves are off the trees to do shots like this again. I am far from a pro. Trial and error and a few tricks I picked up.
#43
Posted 01 November 2008 - 07:20 AM
I remember going in there when I was on Romper Room with Miss Mary Lynn.
#44
Posted 08 November 2008 - 09:29 AM
Skyline from the Oakwood Cemetary - 1970s
2008. Must retake this when trees are bare, as was original. Maybe the drilling rig will be gone by then.
A better view of the skyline, closer to river and further east than original.
#45
Posted 08 November 2008 - 11:42 AM
(This guy is the stinking master of perspective.) He is going to have to post 20 stinkers in a row before I even get back in the water.
I am ready for him to come clean. He has got to be A. A professional Photographer, B. Independently wealthy with too much time on his hands, C. Getting help from the photographic society, The Fort Worth Historical Society, the FBI photo lab and the State Fair Pie contest judging panel.
#46
Posted 08 November 2008 - 01:10 PM
#47
Posted 08 November 2008 - 05:00 PM
Actually, monee, the next piece of photo equipment I buy may be a chain saw.
#48
Posted 08 November 2008 - 05:00 PM
Indeed it was:
The infamous tornado of 2000 damaged, and it was removed from the building (which also, as of 2006, no longer stands). From this page: http://www.fortworth...om/landmark.htm
#49
Posted 10 November 2008 - 02:52 PM
Montgomery Ward 1933
2008
#50
Posted 11 November 2008 - 01:31 PM
7th St. looking east - 1930s
2008
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