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#1101 txbornviking

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Posted 14 September 2023 - 12:58 PM

I was browsing GFF's portfolio and noticed some renderings I had not yet seen of the residential portion of the building. This is now almost done, so you can see it in-person. 

 

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Also interesting, and something I've wondered about. There is a 9-story building depicted in one of the aerials at the corner of Bolland and 7th. This has been used as the construction staging site for the current project. Perhaps there is a future phase planned here?

 

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IMO, that 9story "phase 2" would be a great rounding out of the project



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Posted 14 September 2023 - 01:38 PM

 

Also interesting, and something I've wondered about. There is a 9-story building depicted in one of the aerials at the corner of Bolland and 7th. This has been used as the construction staging site for the current project. Perhaps there is a future phase planned here?

 

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IMO, that 9story "phase 2" would be a great rounding out of the project

 

I agree.  I wonder if Crescent owns that piece of land.  



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Posted 16 September 2023 - 06:33 PM

The curious structure at 3336 Darcy Street will have great views of Phase 2 through its bigass northern windows.  :roflol:



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Posted 21 September 2023 - 12:41 PM

In case anyone wants to invest some pocket change into the new restaurant in the Crescent office building:

 

Duro Hospitality: $4.4 million

Dallas-based restaurant group Duro Hospitality is looking to raise $4.4 million in equity for an entity titled "Duro Ft. Worth Holdings LLC," according to a federal filing.

Duro Hospitality currently operates seven concepts in Dallas, including The Charles, Mister Charles and El Carlos Elegante. The company was founded in 2020 by Benji Homsey, Chas Martin, Corbin See and Ross See following the successful launch of The Charles in 2018.

Duro does not currently have any concepts in Fort Worth.



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Posted 22 September 2023 - 08:47 PM

RE: "Phase II", there is an item on the City Plan Commission to vacate that stub of Darcy Street that currently is in the way.

 

 

5. VA-23-011    Vacation of a Portion of Darcy Street:  Council District 7.   a. Being a vacation of a portion of Darcy Street, as recorded in Volume 204, Page 4 of PRTCT, located in the City of Fort Worth, Tarrant County, Texas.  b. General Location: North of Camp Bowie Boulevard, south of West 7th Street, west of Van Cliburn Way and east of Boland Street.  c. Applicant:   Westwood Professional Services, Inc.,  d. Applicant Requests: 1) Approval of a recommendation to City Council for the vacation of a small portion (334 square foot or 0.008 acre) of Darcy Street right-ofway).    5 City Plan Commission September 27, 2023 Meeting Agenda e. DRC Recommends: 1) Approval of a recommendation to City Council for the vacation of a small portion (334 square foot or 0.008 acre) of Darcy Street right-ofway. 



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Posted 05 October 2023 - 09:16 AM

In a (paywalled) interview with DBJ, John Goff says Crescent is planning more Cultural District developments. He notes that that the Museum Place site has more land and they are seeing interest and working on another building. Sounds like it will be office space+retail most likely: https://www.bizjourn...eal-estate.html

 

He has a lot of other great qoutes as well on what he thinks Fort Worth should be doing. I particularly liked his note that Fort Worth should be careful about creating sprawl and look to create neighborhoods with character.



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Posted 05 October 2023 - 05:35 PM

In a (paywalled) interview with DBJ, John Goff says Crescent is planning more Cultural District developments.


Wouldn't mind if they start looking to certain other parts of the city, too...

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Posted 05 October 2023 - 08:42 PM

I particularly liked his note that Fort Worth should be careful about creating sprawl and look to create neighborhoods with character.

 

Seems to me that the city has already let the horse out of the barn on this one.  Creating sprawl is what Fort Worth does best.  The only reason the city's population is as large as it is is because it keeps sprawling all over the place.



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Posted 05 October 2023 - 09:07 PM

 

I particularly liked his note that Fort Worth should be careful about creating sprawl and look to create neighborhoods with character.

 

Seems to me that the city has already let the horse out of the barn on this one.  Creating sprawl is what Fort Worth does best.  The only reason the city's population is as large as it is is because it keeps sprawling all over the place.

 

That's not just a Fort Worth issue, though. ALL the major cities in the sunbelt are sprawling.

It's just more noticeable for Fort Worth due to the lack of building up... 


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Posted 06 October 2023 - 12:36 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if you just take the population of FW inside Loop 820 it would be about 400k which is the size it has been for the better part of the 1/2 century.



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Posted 06 October 2023 - 12:54 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if you just take the population of FW inside Loop 820 it would be about 400k which is the size it has been for the better part of the 1/2 century.

Possible.

The majority of the growth has been north of Mecham. 


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Posted 18 October 2023 - 12:23 AM

The curious structure at 3336 Darcy Street will have great views of Phase 2 through its bigass northern windows.  :roflol:

Indeed.



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Posted 30 October 2023 - 11:13 AM

"...The Crescent Fort Worth is defined as a Trophy/AA building...""

 

 “...And the perfect example in Fort Worth is The Crescent. I think they’re 94% pre-leased.”

 

 

https://fortworthrep...-to-fort-worth/



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Posted 30 October 2023 - 12:09 PM

"...The Crescent Fort Worth is defined as a Trophy/AA building...""

 

 “...And the perfect example in Fort Worth is The Crescent. I think they’re 94% pre-leased.”

 

 

https://fortworthrep...-to-fort-worth/

 

Commercial Remodel Bldg Permits to-date for 3230 Camp Bowie:

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Posted 31 October 2023 - 08:01 AM

Here's another tenant to add to the above list moving into the new Museum Place offices...Kimbell Art Foundation:

 

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2024004333

 

PROJECT
Project Name: Kimbell Art Foundation (392270701)
Project Number: TABS2024004333
Facility Name: CULTURAL DISTRICT OFFICE
Location Address: 3230 CAMP BOWIE BLVD, STE 580
Fort Worth, TX 76107
Location County: Tarrant
Start Date: 12/1/2023
Completion Date: 5/1/2024
Estimated Cost: $550,500
Type of Work: New Construction
Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work: New Construction
Square Footage: 3,953 ft 2


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Posted 31 October 2023 - 09:00 AM

Impressive amount of work to fill an unopened building beyond the regional office occupany amount. A flight to quality is obvious here. 



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Posted 06 November 2023 - 04:28 PM

Yes, agreed. This building evidently is getting rents that are roughly $20-30/SF higher than some other Class A buildings (most of that inventory was developed in the 1980s, but maintained and renovated over years).  And, they reportedly had more companies interested than space available to lease.

 

John Goff recently was interviewed in at least two local podcasts.  One was the Fort Podcast, which is real estate focused, and the other is Innovate Fort Worth, where the discussion revolves more around economic development, talent, and (of course) innovation.  He addresses this development in both interviews.  In the Fort Podcast interview he does address the flight to quality. 

 

This is happening across the US, but a little differently in each city.  Some percentage of office using companies have been choosing to leave otherwise nice (Class A) office buildings built during the 1980s-2000s for brand new buildings.  They are paying significantly higher rent in the newest AA buildings, but many are simultaneously shrinking the size of the office .  This is exacerbating the financial problems for these 10-40 year old buildings that are not residential conversion candidates and cannot find any lenders to refinance their loans when they mature - for now anyway.



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Posted 06 November 2023 - 05:53 PM

Did the Innovative Fort Worth podcast mention any specific innovations that the new building utilizes? I would imagine the tenant finish outs noted above range is degree of features.

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Posted 06 November 2023 - 06:10 PM

S-T Crescent Hotel article highlights ahead of grand opening:

Exclusive: See inside one of the most expensive luxury hotels in Fort Worth (by Jenny Rudolph)

https://www.star-tel...e281251993.html

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Posted 07 November 2023 - 09:12 AM

S-T Crescent Hotel article highlights ahead of grand opening:

Exclusive: See inside one of the most expensive luxury hotels in Fort Worth (by Jenny Rudolph)

https://www.star-tel...e281251993.html

 

The Star-T story has a line near the end that makes it sound like Crescent has plans for street improvements along Camp Bowie outside their property to calm traffic and making walking more enjoyable?... I wonder what that means.... and if that means they will somehow be paying for it?

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Posted 08 November 2023 - 08:11 AM

The Star-T story has a line near the end that makes it sound like Crescent has plans for street improvements along Camp Bowie outside their property to calm traffic and making walking more enjoyable?... I wonder what that means.... and if that means they will somehow be paying for it?

 

Wow, cool! From the article:

 

Crescent Real Estate ... plans to improve the streets along Camp Bowie Boulevard from Montgomery Street to University Drive in the future.

 

I bet Crescent will signalize at least one of the existing unprotected crosswalks at Van Cliburn Way or Will Rogers Road. I wish they'd go further and write some truly enormous checks to implement the cultural district roundabout at Montgomery and fix the six-way intersection at University by making it four-way

 

Edit: Oops, I meant Clifton Street or Will Rogers Road!



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Posted 08 November 2023 - 10:05 AM

I bet Crescent will signalize at least one of the existing unprotected crosswalks at Van Cliburn Road or Will Rogers Road. 

 

The intersection at Van Cliburn also has one of those frustrating L shaped crosswalks, with no marked crosswalk on the West side of the intersection. If you wanted to walk from the hotel to the Kimbell, you'd have to cross three streets. My assumption is that they do these so that right-turning cars won't be in conflict with pedestrians. I wish the City would make it a policy to have crosswalks at every side of an intersection, especially in high-pedestrian areas. 



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Posted 08 November 2023 - 10:16 AM

With One University slowly taking shape, I could see the need for beefing up this ped X-ing perhaps with a better system of flashing lights and warnings.

 

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This type of system comes to mind:

 

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Posted 08 November 2023 - 12:21 PM

If you recall way back when the bricks on the road were in rough shape, there was an assessment for business owners along the street to restore the "charm" of the street.  So the idea of private participation to improve things is not unprecedented.



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Posted 08 November 2023 - 09:26 PM

The hotel is already buzzing. 

 

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Posted 08 November 2023 - 09:52 PM

I am excited for this. However, first impression is that the building from the outside and signage are much more understated than I expected. I was just comparing first impressions to places like the Ritz-Carleton that perhaps evoke feelings of grandeur with a strong a sense of place, something that draws you in. So are we looking at the front entrance here in these shots or is this a side valet entrance?

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Posted 09 November 2023 - 07:13 AM

 

I bet Crescent will signalize at least one of the existing unprotected crosswalks at Van Cliburn Road or Will Rogers Road. 

 

The intersection at Van Cliburn also has one of those frustrating L shaped crosswalks, with no marked crosswalk on the West side of the intersection. If you wanted to walk from the hotel to the Kimbell, you'd have to cross three streets. My assumption is that they do these so that right-turning cars won't be in conflict with pedestrians. I wish the City would make it a policy to have crosswalks at every side of an intersection, especially in high-pedestrian areas. 

 

Oops, I meant to write Clifton Street instead of Van Cliburn; edited my post above. But, you're right, the existing Van Cliburn L-shaped crosswalk sucks too and should be updated into a full-square crosswalk.

 

I am excited for this. However, first impression is that the building from the outside and signage are much more understated than I expected. I was just comparing first impressions to places like the Ritz-Carleton that perhaps evoke feelings of grandeur with a strong a sense of place, something that draws you in. So are we looking at the front entrance here in these shots or is this a side valet entrance?

 

In the photos above we can see a bit of the hotel's frontage on Van Cliburn, and I think it looks just as understated as the hotel's Camp Bowie frontage. So, I don't think we'll get any more grandeur. In any case, the understated look works for me personally.



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Posted 09 November 2023 - 08:16 AM

I think Austin55's first image shows how it will work out:  the glow from the corner building's high-ceilinged ground floor bar and the eventual top floor bar, as well as looking into the hotel lobby artwork and through to the glow of the courtyard will invite people in (at least at night) like a display case of activity and luxury.

 

It is probably better that they don't try to externally outshine the architecture and landscape of the museums across the street, and instead balance it with an understated and substantial, high-quality building.



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Posted 09 November 2023 - 12:25 PM

I think Austin55's first image shows how it will work out:  the glow from the corner building's high-ceilinged ground floor bar and the eventual top floor bar, as well as looking into the hotel lobby artwork and through to the glow of the courtyard will invite people in (at least at night) like a display case of activity and luxury.

 

It is probably better that they don't try to externally outshine the architecture and landscape of the museums across the street, and instead balance it with an understated and substantial, high-quality building.

Totally agree with you on all your points.  Less assuming works best in the cultural district; especially with the Kimball being directly across the street.



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Posted 15 November 2023 - 08:54 AM

I had a drink at the Crescent with some friends on Sunday afternoon. The whole thing is first class, its beautiful.

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Posted 15 November 2023 - 09:05 AM

The hotel is already buzzing. 

 

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One thing that just caught my attention in this photo are the drapes.  I wonder if it was a cost-savings measure to not go with mechoshades here?  I stayed in a way less expensive hotel than this in Kansas City but was brand new and I was very impressed with their bi-level mechoshade system that had light emitting and light blocking material.  It was very clean looking.  I'm just studying this photo that Austin posted and a bit suprised at the amount of fabric I see hanging in the windows picking up the surrounding street lights, especially on the ground floor.  Perhaps mechoshades are just something that will eventually break and need to be replaced.



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Posted 15 November 2023 - 09:53 AM

I think maybe the draperies are more luxurious and less commercial-feeling.  It is completely possible (likely even, in the big spaces) that they are powered.  I have stayed in quite a few hotels that were this way in the rooms.  There are also acoustic benefits to that fabric.



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Posted 19 November 2023 - 01:52 PM

Dallas Morning News, https://www.dallasne...or-resort-firm/
Canyon Ranch Wellness Club will open in the next few weeks as part of the Crescent project. The three-story 20,000 sqft spa will be accessible to guests at the hotel and Canyon Ranch members.

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Posted 20 November 2023 - 11:09 PM

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2024005817

 

PROJECT
Project Name: Contango  (https://contango.com/)
Project Number: TABS2024005817
Facility Name: CULTURAL DISTRICT OFFICE
Location Address: 3230 CAMP BOWIE BLVD, STE 810
Fort Worth, TX 76107
Location County: Tarrant
Start Date: 12/18/2023
Completion Date: 3/15/2024
Estimated Cost: $1,095,000
Type of Work: Renovation/Alteration
Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work: Interior Renovation of non load bearing partitions
Square Footage: 7,300 ft 2
 
OWNER
Owner Name:
Crescent
Owner Address:
200 CRESCENT COURT, SUITE 250
Dallas, Texas 75201
 
DESIGN FIRM
Design Firm Name:
DLR Group
Design Firm Address:
2525 McKinnon St Ste. 800
Dallas, Texas 75201


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Posted 26 November 2023 - 09:24 PM

I took some time off from work today to go out and take a few photographs.  This is an overall view of the Crescent Hotel and the residences behind it.

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Posted 27 November 2023 - 12:57 PM

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2024006051

 

PROJECT
Project Name: Morgan Stanley Wealth Management - Tenant Build-Out The Crescent
Project Number: TABS2024006051
Facility Name: The Crescent
Location Address: 3230 Camp Bowie Boulevard
Fort Worth, TX 76107
Location County: Tarrant
Start Date: 1/30/2024
Completion Date: 4/30/2024
Estimated Cost: $1,400,000
Type of Work: Renovation/Alteration
Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work: Partial floor interior tenant build-out in existing commercial space, to include all typical partition, ceiling, finish, mill/casework, furnishing, + MEP as required for typical commercial office space. No restroom or exterior work included in scope.
Square Footage: 6,981 ft 2
Are the private funds provided by the tenant? Yes
Current Status: Project Registered
 
OWNER
Owner Name:
GPIF CD Office LLC
Owner Address:
3230 Camp Bowie Boulevard #500
Fort Worth, Texas 76107
 
DESIGN FIRM
Design Firm Name: HSB Architects + Engineers
Design Firm Address: 1250 Old River Road Suite 201
Cleveland, Ohio 44113

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 05:59 AM

I think maybe the draperies are more luxurious and less commercial-feeling.  It is completely possible (likely even, in the big spaces) that they are powered.  I have stayed in quite a few hotels that were this way in the rooms.  There are also acoustic benefits to that fabric.

That's what I think too. Draperies do tend to impart a more luxurious feel to a space.

Some of it comes down to the look (and feel) of the fabric, obviously. While this pertains to a different interior design situation, one of my favorite clothing brands has these beautiful (and heavy) striped satin drapes on their fitting rooms in many of their stores; they look and feel quite luxurious:

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I've been to other locations of this same brand that replaced those aforementioned satin drapes with different fabrics (or with doors); at least in my opinion, those spaces lost some of that luxurious look and feel.


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Posted 06 December 2023 - 08:33 PM

Website for the Crescent residences is live: https://thecrescentr...es.com/gallery/



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Posted 07 December 2023 - 01:19 PM

Website for the Crescent residences is live: https://thecrescentr...es.com/gallery/

I saw a lady walking a dog earlier this week and she went inside the building as if she lived there.  I'm assuming at least one phase of the western building is ready and being leased out to tenants wanting to get in early. It's that or maybe she could have been a leasing agent who brought her dog to work



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Posted 07 December 2023 - 05:43 PM

Inline with what we talked about on the Deco thread. These prices are certainly renovating my house in Monticello vibes. However, these sort of price points do help put us on the map.

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Posted 07 December 2023 - 06:07 PM

I seem to remember them mentioning that TCU parents were a big market. 


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Posted 26 December 2023 - 04:03 PM


https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2023025408

Project Name: Duro Restaurant
 

 
If this refers to Duro Hospitality (maybe a new concept), I'm in. 
 
https://durohospitality.com/
 
I really like The Charles and Mr. Charles. Very different from the traditional Fort Worth steakhouse type vibe. 
This Duro restaurant is one of the Dallas Morning News' most exciting new restaurants opening in 2024.

The paper doesn't know many details, just that it's 3,500 sqft on the first floor and patio, that it will be a high-end concept Duro hasn't done before, and that it wont be Italian.

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Posted 26 December 2023 - 04:28 PM

 

 

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2023025408

Project Name: Duro Restaurant
 

 
If this refers to Duro Hospitality (maybe a new concept), I'm in. 
 
https://durohospitality.com/
 
I really like The Charles and Mr. Charles. Very different from the traditional Fort Worth steakhouse type vibe. 
This Duro restaurant is one of the Dallas Morning News' most exciting new restaurants opening in 2024.

The paper doesn't know many details, just that it's 3,500 sqft on the first floor and patio, that it will be a high-end concept Duro hasn't done before, and that it wont be Italian.

 

 

I recently saw some the details on this. Traditional upscale, menu includes raw items (oysters, tartare, etc.), handmade pastas, fish, meats, skillet vegetables, and a wagyu burger. Very high end finish out. Google 'Harry's Bar London' or 'Polo Bar New York' to see what they're going for. 



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Posted 20 February 2024 - 10:14 AM

Website for the Crescent residences is live: https://thecrescentr...es.com/gallery/

 

Has anyone checked out the prices here? The cheapest unit I see is $2,278 for 707 sqft on the second floor and the most expensive is $8,750 for a 1760 sqft corner unit on the top floor. I'm guessing this is taking the crown as the priciest place to rent in Fort Worth. 



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Posted 20 February 2024 - 12:31 PM

 

Website for the Crescent residences is live: https://thecrescentr...es.com/gallery/

 

Has anyone checked out the prices here? The cheapest unit I see is $2,278 for 707 sqft on the second floor and the most expensive is $8,750 for a 1760 sqft corner unit on the top floor. I'm guessing this is taking the crown as the priciest place to rent in Fort Worth. 

 

 

This floorplan is starting at $13,969

 

https://deco969.com/floorplans/ph-5/



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Posted 21 February 2024 - 11:19 AM

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2023025408

Project Name: Duro Restaurant
Project Number: TABS2023025408
Facility Name: Museum Place Office
Location Address:
3230 Camp Bowie Blvd, Suite 150
Fort Worth, TX 76107
Location County: Tarrant
Start Date: 12/1/2023
Completion Date: 8/1/2024
Estimated Cost: $2,000,000
Type of Work: New Construction
Type of Funds: This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work:
Restaurant w/ bar finish out of existing space w/ new storefront & façade design.
Square Footage: 3,996 ft 2
Are the private funds provided by the tenant? No
 

 

I had to refresh my memory on the timeline for completion of Duro.  Looks like we have another 6-months left.



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Posted 28 February 2024 - 09:55 AM

 

 

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2023025408

Project Name: Duro Restaurant
 

 
If this refers to Duro Hospitality (maybe a new concept), I'm in. 
 
https://durohospitality.com/
 
I really like The Charles and Mr. Charles. Very different from the traditional Fort Worth steakhouse type vibe. 
This Duro restaurant is one of the Dallas Morning News' most exciting new restaurants opening in 2024.

The paper doesn't know many details, just that it's 3,500 sqft on the first floor and patio, that it will be a high-end concept Duro hasn't done before, and that it wont be Italian.

 

 

Still no (new) details on Duro.

 

"Here’s a look at two fancy new restaurants in Fort Worth’s Crescent towers. One is open"
BY BUD KENNEDY


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Posted 25 March 2024 - 08:06 AM

 

 

 

https://www.tdlr.tex.../TABS2023025408

Project Name: Duro Restaurant
 

 
If this refers to Duro Hospitality (maybe a new concept), I'm in. 
 
https://durohospitality.com/
 
I really like The Charles and Mr. Charles. Very different from the traditional Fort Worth steakhouse type vibe. 
This Duro restaurant is one of the Dallas Morning News' most exciting new restaurants opening in 2024.

The paper doesn't know many details, just that it's 3,500 sqft on the first floor and patio, that it will be a high-end concept Duro hasn't done before, and that it wont be Italian.

 

 

Still no (new) details on Duro.

 

"Here’s a look at two fancy new restaurants in Fort Worth’s Crescent towers. One is open"
BY BUD KENNEDY

 

 

We have a name (heard it here first)  for Duro's new Museum Place restaurant:

 

Record AD24-00073: 
Alcohol Distance Check
Record Status: Pending

https://aca-prod.acc...ShowInspection=

 

Permit Address
3230 CAMP BOWIE BLVD 
 
Project Description:
THE CHUMLEY HOUSE
 
Site Contact information
DURO FW BEVCO LLC
3230 CAMP BOWIE BLVD
FORT WORTH, TX, 76107
 
ALCOHOL DISTANCE APPEAL
Type of Establishment: Restaurant
Type of License/Permit:Mixed Beverage
 
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Posted 25 March 2024 - 12:38 PM

There was a famous Chumley's in the West Village in NYC for a long time that closed during the pandemic.  I wonder if that's where they got the name idea.

 

https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Chumley's







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