CD: New Pedestrian Bridge over Trinity
#52
Posted 25 August 2012 - 03:06 PM
What about the trail bridge by the "panther island pavillion" stage? Doesn't that connect the trail to downtown, closer to downtown?
Sure enough. But a ways up. At this morning's ceremony, Debra Ferguson (Morning show on channel 5) commented that she lives in the Park Place neighborhood and his happy to be able to bike to Trinity Park.
I think we might be surprised at what a draw it will be for that area and Trinity Park. Is it worth paying interest on as a taxpayer. No. But to me, nothing is. Nothing.
#53
Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:36 AM
The first people to cross. (Each of these people a somebody.)
Technically, the very first person crossing is not quite a somebody. The woman driving the pedicab is not well known, but I know her. She started the pedicab service and also works as a local realtor.
Sure, but you have to climb Tailor Street to actually get to downtown. It is one of the steeper hills in Fort Worth, used as a kind of benchmark/rite of passage by cyclists. I rode with a group last night that crossed from Trinity Park to the east side of the river. We followed the trail to the old Leonard's/Tandy Center lots, then exited them on Lexington and rode into downtown. That was a bit of a climb, but nowhere near as bad as Tailor Street. (Fort Worth seems flat until you start riding a bike.)What about the trail bridge by the "panther island pavillion" stage? Doesn't that connect the trail to downtown, closer to downtown?
The climb is an issue, though. Downtown is on land that is significantly above Trinity Park, which basically a flood plain for the Trinity. To really take advantage of the new bridge relative to downtown, there needs to be access to downtown that a casual rider can climb.
And when you talk of connecting to downtown, closer to downtown, it depends on where you're coming from. If you're coming from the north, then, yeah, that is a good place to approach (although steep). If you're coming from the west or southwest, it's quite a long ride to get to downtown, only to have to climb Tailor Street.
I think there will, in fact, be a lot of bicycle and pedestrian traffic over the new bridge. I think it will have a positive impact on both transit and quality of life will prove well worth the public expenditure, Mr. Luenser's comments notwithstanding.
#54
Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:50 AM
#55
Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:06 AM
#56
Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:07 AM
And when you talk of connecting to downtown, closer to downtown, it depends on where you're coming from. If you're coming from the north, then, yeah, that is a good place to approach (although steep). If you're coming from the west or southwest, it's quite a long ride to get to downtown, only to have to climb Tailor Street.
I think there will, in fact, be a lot of bicycle and pedestrian traffic over the new bridge. I think it will have a positive impact on both transit and quality of life will prove well worth the public expenditure, Mr. Luenser's comments notwithstanding.
It looks to me like when you cross the bridge from Trinity Park, you are going to be on Forest Park blvd for a while, whether you go north or south from there. Anybody know if there are plans to add bike lanes to Forest Park Blvd?
#57
Posted 27 August 2012 - 02:26 PM
#58
Posted 27 August 2012 - 05:04 PM
#60
Posted 07 September 2012 - 10:39 AM
FORTWORHOLOGY.COM: City Officially Considering Forest Park Road Diet Plan
Kevin reports the city is looking at making Forest Park Blvd more bike friendly from Rosedale down to Park Hill. I hope that the city also looks at making a similar change for the stretch of Forest Park Blvd from Rosedale north to the Phyllis Tilley bridge. This would make the PT bridge much more useful for CD'ers biking to the Near Southside, and Near Southsiders biking to the CD.
#61
Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:17 PM
This could go in a couple of different threads:
FORTWORHOLOGY.COM: City Officially Considering Forest Park Road Diet Plan
Kevin reports the city is looking at making Forest Park Blvd more bike friendly from Rosedale down to Park Hill. I hope that the city also looks at making a similar change for the stretch of Forest Park Blvd from Rosedale north to the Phyllis Tilley bridge. This would make the PT bridge much more useful for CD'ers biking to the Near Southside, and Near Southsiders biking to the CD.
Horrible idea. (Constricting traffic)
It might help the area if they shut the road down altogether?
#62
Posted 07 September 2012 - 01:44 PM
Please explain how increasing safety for pedestrians, bikes, and cars, on a street through a residential neighborhood, is a "horrible idea". If it happens to slow some cars down, I'm okay with that. Did you read in the article the number of major accidents they've had on that street in the last couple of years? "63 minor accidents, 21 major accidents (a major accident is loosely defined as one resulting in hospitalization), and seven hit & runs". I'd say a change would do some good there.
I bet you'd be all for it if it was on your famous walk from "Old Town" to Target to get milk! Better sidewalks on the 7th street bridge are okay, but not on Forest Park, that increases traffic congestion!
#63
Posted 07 September 2012 - 02:42 PM
#64
Posted 07 September 2012 - 02:42 PM
Are you talking about my idea (FP Boulevard North of Rosedale) or the city's idea (South of Rosedale to Park Hill)??
Please explain how increasing safety for pedestrians, bikes, and cars, on a street through a residential neighborhood, is a "horrible idea". If it happens to slow some cars down, I'm okay with that. Did you read in the article the number of major accidents they've had on that street in the last couple of years? "63 minor accidents, 21 major accidents (a major accident is loosely defined as one resulting in hospitalization), and seven hit & runs". I'd say a change would do some good there.
I bet you'd be all for it if it was on your famous walk from "Old Town" to Target to get milk! Better sidewalks on the 7th street bridge are okay, but not on Forest Park, that increases traffic congestion!
I am talking about anywhere they try to constrict traffic. Anywhere. Including on 7th street. (BTW milk is deadly, except for newborn cows)
Stupid ideas are stupid anywhere. Restricting auto movement contributes to pollution and uses oil, mostly foreign. And I am not against sidewalks. Outside of the fact that they are not cost effective as I have seldom seen anyone but a bum on my walks. As lazy as people have become, sidewalks may be dead.
#65
Posted 07 September 2012 - 04:08 PM
I am talking about anywhere they try to constrict traffic. Anywhere. Including on 7th street. (BTW milk is deadly, except for newborn cows)
Stupid ideas are stupid anywhere. Restricting auto movement contributes to pollution and uses oil, mostly foreign. And I am not against sidewalks. Outside of the fact that they are not cost effective as I have seldom seen anyone but a bum on my walks. As lazy as people have become, sidewalks may be dead.
meh, lots to argue with there, but I'll pass. We're getting pretty far from the topic, which is the Phyllis Tilley bridge. I just brought up the FP boulevard in hopes there is a plan to bring the bike lanes further north to link up with the bridge. If you want to talk about that idea, here's the place to do it. You appear to be upset about the part of the plan that's south of Rosedale. You could start a different thread somewhere and get people to argue with you there.
#66
Posted 07 September 2012 - 06:32 PM
#67
Posted 07 September 2012 - 07:54 PM
#68
Posted 07 September 2012 - 08:45 PM
#69
Posted 07 September 2012 - 09:07 PM
#70
Posted 08 September 2012 - 08:04 AM
Impressive... Google Maps already shows a bike route where the Tilley bridge is.
I saw that too... it seems like it won't make a bike route over the bridge though - it keeps wanting to route me up to 7th street.
#72
Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:16 AM
http://www.fwbusines...412&TM=33094.48
Nice that the honor goes to a Fort Worth company too (Freese and Nichols).
#73
Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:33 PM
#74
Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:43 AM
#75
Posted 05 May 2014 - 06:56 PM
The Phyllis Tilley Bridge won the Prize Bridge Award, category Special Purpose, given by the National Steel Bridge Alliance which is a subgroup of AISC.
http://www.aisc.org/...A.aspx?id=20844
Fun to see AISC recognize a structure in Fort Worth.
#76
Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:15 PM
The bridge is on the cover of this month's issue of Modern Steel Construction.
http://digitaleditio...ation/?i=209760
Article on page 32.
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#77
Posted 05 June 2014 - 09:33 AM
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#78
Posted 05 June 2014 - 11:36 AM
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