Fort Worth Business is reporting. Its on! -
http://www.fortworth...35fd536105.html
Posted 20 October 2016 - 02:00 PM
Posted 20 October 2016 - 03:36 PM
Great stuff! I'm getting excited now!
It's a great design, vibrant, exciting and colorful. Hopefully the whole district follows that lead. There appears to be a skybridge which is a bummer, and I do wish it had retail along Main, but otherwise, this looks amazing. Cant wait to see what follows...
300 down, 9,700 to go....
Edit- This also leads to the "does it deserve it's own thread" conundrum. Seems like a project this big and independent would work better with its own thread, while this one remain about the infrastructure, canals, funding etc of the TRV.
Posted 20 October 2016 - 04:40 PM
It looks good but I'm not seeing any retail component mentioned. I realize this is just the first project of many, but hopefully the developers will embrace the mixed use goals for this area.
Posted 20 October 2016 - 05:32 PM
Posted 20 October 2016 - 06:02 PM
http://www.star-tele...e109399137.html
Proposed 300 unit apartment community scheduled to begin construction in the summer of 2017 with completion 12 months later.
Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:47 PM
Those renderings look fantastic!
-Dylan
Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:00 AM
The building design for this apartment community is great! But I would hardly call a 5-story building a "dynamic vertical growth," as Robert Francis wrote in the Fort Worth Business article. To me, vertical means a high-rise. The TRV's master plan has artist drawings that feature some high-rise construction, which I guess means a Class-A office tower or two. I hope that does happen on Panther Island...for the sake of variety. Surely the whole island will not be populated by sprawling 5-story apartment housing projects and small-scale retail establishments?
Posted 21 October 2016 - 06:14 AM
The building design for this apartment community is great! But I would hardly call a 5-story building a "dynamic vertical growth," as Robert Francis wrote in the Fort Worth Business article. To me, vertical means a high-rise. The TRV's master plan has artist drawings that feature some high-rise construction, which I guess means a Class-A office tower or two. I hope that does happen on Panther Island...for the sake of variety. Surely the whole island will not be populated by sprawling 5-story apartment housing projects and small-scale retail establishments?
PI has zoning which specifies a minimum and maximum height. Most of the island around N. Main is capped at 6-8 floors, but some areas around the edges allow 20+ floors. I think it's mostly meant to be residential, however.
Posted 21 October 2016 - 08:46 AM
A few questions I have:
-Does this mean that Throckmorton will be extended south? Looking at the map, it seems as if the location of this project isn't currently along Throckmorton, as the plans seem to indicate.
-Will construction of the apartments begin before the canal is dug?
Posted 21 October 2016 - 10:17 AM
Posted 24 October 2016 - 04:48 PM
Not at all a fan of the mandated low-rise nature of this, the most expensive plot of land in the entire city.
Posted 25 October 2016 - 08:03 AM
Not at all a fan of the mandated low-rise nature of this, the most expensive plot of land in the entire city.
Good point. I'm not against 5-story apartment complexes. But Panther Island is too valuable a tourist attraction to be wasted on multi-family housing, if such housing encompasses most of the Island.
Also wondering...will the annual July 4 fireworks display be affected by these building projects?
Posted 25 October 2016 - 09:42 AM
Posted 25 October 2016 - 11:07 AM
I'm curious what you'd propose as a better use for the land than housing?
Depending on land availability, two high-rise Class A Office towers, two high-rise condominiums, a major high-rise hotel, the proposed 5-story apartment complex, maybe a public institutional building for arts and culture, and a number of retail establishments, including high-class restaurants with bars...all properly spaced to allow for the river walk.
[It would have been great if the legislature had allowed for a public referendum on casino gambling, as I would have wanted the hotel to include a casino.]
Posted 25 October 2016 - 11:29 AM
Posted 25 October 2016 - 04:17 PM
Depending on land availability, two high-rise Class A Office towers, two high-rise condominiums, a major high-rise hotel, the proposed 5-story apartment complex, maybe a public institutional building for arts and culture, and a number of retail establishments, including high-class restaurants with bars...all properly spaced to allow for the river walk.
I'm curious what you'd propose as a better use for the land than housing?
[It would have been great if the legislature had allowed for a public referendum on casino gambling, as I would have wanted the hotel to include a casino.]
Posted 26 October 2016 - 08:13 AM
When I used the term "high-rise" I didn't necessarily mean a 50-story skyscraper. As Austin55 pointed out, the area building heights regulations do allow for a 20-story building. In my estimation, that's a high-rise building.
I guess nobody knows what's going to happen to the annual July 4 fireworks display? Surely, the city won't allow fireworks in the vicinity of residential and commercial buildings.
Posted 26 October 2016 - 08:12 PM
... Surely, the city won't allow fireworks in the vicinity of residential and commercial buildings.
Especially since, given their high restrictions, they will no doubt be built from cheap wood!
It should be housing. It shouldn't be the type of cheap low-rise junk you can find anywhere else in this city.
Since we are supposedly building this to become the Vancouver of the South, a little reminder of what that looks like:
Posted 27 October 2016 - 06:22 AM
I share your concern about high-rise overkill. One wonders how Vancouver (or, for that matter, Manhattan island) can stay afloat. I wasn't suggesting all of Panther Island resemble Vancouver. In fact, our local office and housing markets are not strong enough to support such development. Just a little variety in size and design of the building projects.
Posted 27 October 2016 - 07:30 AM
I have no concern for high-rise overkill on PI. In fact my concern is the opposite- a huge lack of areas where mid or high rise building will be allowed under the master plan.
Posted 27 October 2016 - 08:07 AM
I agree w/Volare. I have no concern for overkill on PI, it's a master planned development, it has the potential to be a proper high density urban core. Areas like Southside and Race St should be the areas with warehouse size living quarters.
Posted 23 May 2017 - 11:41 AM
Saw this in TDLR
New wood construction of 2 (two) multi-level, multi-family apartment buildings with 4 and 5 levels respectively and a 5 level, above ground, concrete parking garage. The building and garage footprint is 90,613 square foot. The buildings will be wrapped with fiber cement siding and metal panel. The buildings will be sprinklered throughout
Scheduled start time is listed as October 1st.
Posted 23 May 2017 - 12:05 PM
Saw this in TDLR
New wood construction of 2 (two) multi-level, multi-family apartment buildings with 4 and 5 levels respectively and a 5 level, above ground, concrete parking garage. The building and garage footprint is 90,613 square foot. The buildings will be wrapped with fiber cement siding and metal panel. The buildings will be sprinklered throughout
Scheduled start time is listed as October 1st.
So... this is what they're sticking with?
Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:30 AM
I guess some of us were wrong when we thought Panther Island would be a tourist attraction along with commercial development. Tourists will stay away if they think this is an ordinary residential subdivision. Makes no difference if this multi-family apartment complex has a canal running through it.
I'm reminded of the old New York adage, "great place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there." I hope we don't say this backward about PI...great place to live but I wouldn't want to visit there.
Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:39 AM
It's the first piece of development. I'm not going to go so far as to say that it will be just some "ordinary residential subdivision", and even Uptown Dallas has a few of these.
...it's just that, I wouldn't want THIS development right along Main St. It seems like it would be more suitable for one of the side corridors.
I have no problem with Encore, but still, it seems like it would be better next to LaGrave. At least, that's where I'd put it.
Posted 04 August 2017 - 08:31 PM
...man, I completely forgot about this.
Posted 18 December 2017 - 02:10 PM
Permits are in. Should be a go very shortly.
Posted 29 March 2018 - 03:38 PM
Here's a PDF with detailed floor plans.
https://odenhughes-w...chanical_DD.pdf
Not much sign of construction yet...
Posted 26 April 2018 - 02:53 PM
At the risk of repeating myself from an earlier post, I hope this low-profile apartment complex is not the model for future development on Panther Island. I hope a variety of buildings, residential, office, and commercial, high-rise and low-rise, populate this valuable tract of land. But not in the manner of the West Seventh Street development, which has taken on a mediocrity on account of repetitive looking low-rise mixed-use projects.
Posted 11 May 2018 - 07:44 PM
That's good news!
Posted 24 May 2018 - 03:27 PM
Having Panther Island Brewing as ones "backyard" could be some serious good news/bad news.
Yum.
Posted 24 May 2018 - 03:56 PM
Kind of like people who live in the Miller Lofts (next to HopFusion).
Posted 02 July 2018 - 12:19 PM
Posted 25 September 2018 - 10:44 AM
So, with the central lake and canals several years from being completed, anyone else wondering how the canal through this development will work? Will they just leave an empty ROW? Dig a ditch? Build a 100 foot section of it right now and dam it?
Posted 08 February 2019 - 11:34 AM
Anyone know why this still isn't going vertical? Everytime I pass there's activity but still just turning dirt, 9 months later. I'm wondering if there's contamination issues with the soil or something?
Posted 08 February 2019 - 12:00 PM
Anyone know why this still isn't going vertical? Everytime I pass there's activity but still just turning dirt, 9 months later. I'm wondering if there's contamination issues with the soil or something?
If soil contamination is the hold up that pretty much sounds like a death-nail for any other development...
Posted 08 February 2019 - 12:34 PM
Anyone know why this still isn't going vertical? Everytime I pass there's activity but still just turning dirt, 9 months later. I'm wondering if there's contamination issues with the soil or something?
Yeah I thought the same a few weeks back. I was thinking it had to do with the canal portion... or maybe it's the investors slowing things down due to the uncertainty of the whole Panther Island project. If it feels like a bad investment then most investors will cut off or slow down funding so they can move that money elsewhere. Let's hope it's not due to any contamination issues.
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