Developers for a project called "The Stayton" were making presentations yesterday at the Fort Worth Club. I dropped in to see if there was a rendering and wound up visiting with the sales staff for a little bit.
It is slated to sit southeast of the Residence Inn in SO7, backing up to the Lancaster Bridge. It is supposed to be an upscale competitor for Trinity Terrace. Same basic financial plan, you essentially buy the condo with a deposit. 95% of the deposit is refundable to whomever you designate. The units will start at $300K for a one bedroom/one bath apartment and could go up as high as $1.2M. Monthly dues (or whatever you call them) will run from $2K to $5K. It will be a progressive care set-up, with options ranging from completely independent living to full-time nurse supervision, with a focus on memory and muscle loss patients.
There was only one rendering on paper, which was described as "preliminary." Although there was a video presentation that might have had more drawings in it. I didn't stay around to watch it. The three proposed buildings looked to be 6 - 10 stories each. Lots of glass. Had kind of the same feel as the Omni stylistically.
Their presentations seemed to be geared up as an introduction/ interest assessment meeting. They acted like they were a couple of years from breaking ground. Construction to be completed in late 2010. It seemed like the kind of thing that could fall through without much fanfare, although they did have an army there. The company, whose name I can not recall, has similar developments in Houston, Dallas, and maybe Atlanta?
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The Stayton at Museum Way sets up information center
BY BETTY DILLARD
September 17, 2007
The Stayton at Museum Way, an independent retirement community planned on two-and-a-half acres in the heart of Fort Worth’s Cultural District, will open an information center and gallery on the second floor of the corporate offices of Citizens National Bank at 2720 W. Seventh St.
The office space, blocks away from the future building site across from Montgomery Plaza, will replicate what the 171 apartment homes and commons areas will look like in the 10-story
building.
The future site is currently being developed for the 540,000-square-foot building, which will consist of three slender interconnected towers. Groundbreaking for the project is expected next year.
The Stayton will be the only full-service life care community in Tarrant County. The top seven floors will provide independent living while the lower three levels will provide assisted living, memory support and skilled nursing care. The development also will feature a spa, an indoor swimming pool, a fitness center and a dining room.
“We’ve taken our cues from the museums in our design,” said David Dillard, principal architect with CSD Architects. “The apartments on the top seven floors will have balconies, and like the dining area, will have incredible views of downtown Fort Worth and
all the Cultural District including
the museums.”
The Stayton at Museum Way is a not-for-profit organization owned by Tarrant County Senior Living Center Inc., a division of Senior Quality Lifestyles Co. Houston-based nonprofit Senior Quality Lifestyles also owns sister communities Edgemere in Dallas, The Buckingham in Houston and Querencia at Barton Creek in Austin.
IT firm opens Texas office
L. Robert Kimball & Associates, a full-service architecture and engineering firm headquartered in Pennsylvania, recently opened its first office in Texas.
Located at 550 Silicon Dr. in Southlake, the office will house the company’s telecommunications and technology division and serve as its gateway and contact center for the western United States.
“Movement into the west supports our vision to remain the leader in public safety counseling. Our office opening is a direct effect of an across-the-board increase in demand for our public safety consulting services,” said Kevin Murray, senior vice president of the telecommunications and technology division, in
a statement.
David Jones, a 9-1-1 expert and the immediate past president of the National Emergency Number Association, will manage the office.
Mansfield says aloha to park
Construction has begun on Hawaiian Falls/Mansfield, a 14-acre themed water park at 500 Heritage Parkway South just off State Highway 360 in the Big Dreams park.
The $10 million project is a joint venture between Hawaiian Falls, the city of Mansfield and the Mansfield Park Facilities Development Corp. The city will own the park and Hawaiian Falls will operate it under a 40-year lease.
Swimmers and toe-dippers can expect to get wet Memorial Day weekend 2008. The park will be the largest Hawaiian Falls entertainment complex in the area, boasting 12 waterslides, a football-sized wave pool, a lazy river and two children’s areas.
The park will also host concerts, “dive-in” movies, private cabana rentals and birthday party rooms.
Hawaiian Falls/Mansfield will employ about 200 people during the season and will attract about 150,000 guests each year. It’s expected to pump about $5 million annually into the local
economy.
Hawaiian Falls is owned by Harvest Family Entertainment, which has built or refurbished 17 water parks, including The Colony, Plano and the Firewheel in Garland.
Hurst building has makeover
Boxford Properties Inc., an investor group in Southlake, has purchased a 7,801-square-foot office building in Hurst. The new owners, who will occupy part of the space, have already started remodeling the building, located at 1100 Pipeline Road at the corner of Melbourne Road.
The investors plan to have suites available to lease by January.
Terms of the sale were not disclosed. Sylvia Biersdorfer of Integrity Commercial Realty of Southlake represented both seller and buyer.
Contact Dillard at bdillard@bizpress.net
The Stayton at Museum Way sets up information center
BY BETTY DILLARD
September 17, 2007
The Stayton at Museum Way, an independent retirement community planned on two-and-a-half acres in the heart of Fort Worth’s Cultural District, will open an information center and gallery on the second floor of the corporate offices of Citizens National Bank at 2720 W. Seventh St.
The office space, blocks away from the future building site across from Montgomery Plaza, will replicate what the 171 apartment homes and commons areas will look like in the 10-story
building.
The future site is currently being developed for the 540,000-square-foot building, which will consist of three slender interconnected towers. Groundbreaking for the project is expected next year.
The Stayton will be the only full-service life care community in Tarrant County. The top seven floors will provide independent living while the lower three levels will provide assisted living, memory support and skilled nursing care. The development also will feature a spa, an indoor swimming pool, a fitness center and a dining room.
“We’ve taken our cues from the museums in our design,” said David Dillard, principal architect with CSD Architects. “The apartments on the top seven floors will have balconies, and like the dining area, will have incredible views of downtown Fort Worth and
all the Cultural District including
the museums.”
The Stayton at Museum Way is a not-for-profit organization owned by Tarrant County Senior Living Center Inc., a division of Senior Quality Lifestyles Co. Houston-based nonprofit Senior Quality Lifestyles also owns sister communities Edgemere in Dallas, The Buckingham in Houston and Querencia at Barton Creek in Austin.
IT firm opens Texas office
L. Robert Kimball & Associates, a full-service architecture and engineering firm headquartered in Pennsylvania, recently opened its first office in Texas.
Located at 550 Silicon Dr. in Southlake, the office will house the company’s telecommunications and technology division and serve as its gateway and contact center for the western United States.
“Movement into the west supports our vision to remain the leader in public safety counseling. Our office opening is a direct effect of an across-the-board increase in demand for our public safety consulting services,” said Kevin Murray, senior vice president of the telecommunications and technology division, in
a statement.
David Jones, a 9-1-1 expert and the immediate past president of the National Emergency Number Association, will manage the office.
Mansfield says aloha to park
Construction has begun on Hawaiian Falls/Mansfield, a 14-acre themed water park at 500 Heritage Parkway South just off State Highway 360 in the Big Dreams park.
The $10 million project is a joint venture between Hawaiian Falls, the city of Mansfield and the Mansfield Park Facilities Development Corp. The city will own the park and Hawaiian Falls will operate it under a 40-year lease.
Swimmers and toe-dippers can expect to get wet Memorial Day weekend 2008. The park will be the largest Hawaiian Falls entertainment complex in the area, boasting 12 waterslides, a football-sized wave pool, a lazy river and two children’s areas.
The park will also host concerts, “dive-in” movies, private cabana rentals and birthday party rooms.
Hawaiian Falls/Mansfield will employ about 200 people during the season and will attract about 150,000 guests each year. It’s expected to pump about $5 million annually into the local
economy.
Hawaiian Falls is owned by Harvest Family Entertainment, which has built or refurbished 17 water parks, including The Colony, Plano and the Firewheel in Garland.
Hurst building has makeover
Boxford Properties Inc., an investor group in Southlake, has purchased a 7,801-square-foot office building in Hurst. The new owners, who will occupy part of the space, have already started remodeling the building, located at 1100 Pipeline Road at the corner of Melbourne Road.
The investors plan to have suites available to lease by January.
Terms of the sale were not disclosed. Sylvia Biersdorfer of Integrity Commercial Realty of Southlake represented both seller and buyer.
Contact Dillard at bdillard@bizpress.net
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I googled and found that they have a website:
thestayton.com
There isn't much info as of yet.
thestayton.com
There isn't much info as of yet.
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Activity on the rise at The Stayton at Museum Way
BY BETTY DILLARD
March 24, 2008
Ground has not broken yet on The Stayton at Museum Way – Tarrant County’s only resort-style life-care retirement community – but activity is brisk at the development’s recently opened sales and information center in Fort Worth’s Cultural District.
Construction is expected to begin in late fall 2008 on the project, located near downtown on West Seventh Street across from the Montgomery Plaza mixed-used development and just blocks down from the West 7th and Museum Place projects, all of which are transforming the near west side of the city into a trendy blend of business, homes and culture.
“We’re excited to be in the heart of it all, within this new urban village neighborhood. Our location is a big advantage to seniors looking for a life care community,” said Matt Allan, senior living counselor for The Stayton.
Allan said that interest is building at The Stayton, which opened sales offices and a presentation gallery three weeks ago.
“We’ve had tremendous success in our first three weeks. We’re completely booked with appointments for the next three weeks, have made some sales already and have several residences committed,” Allan said.
Built around a life-care concept, The Stayton will consist of three 11-story interconnected towers featuring 188 upscale residences ranging in size from 850 to 2,200 square feet and common areas. The majority of the homes will provide independent living – most of the apartments have patios with sweeping views of downtown or the Museum District – while the lower levels will provide assisted living, memory support and skilled nursing care.
The amenities are what might be found in a country club setting: vaulted ceilings, floor-to-ceiling windows, granite countertops, high-end appliances, a health club and spa, swimming pool, fine dining, a library, Internet access, housekeeping and concierge services.
Throw in lots of fun, engaging activities, and it’s easy to forget this is a retirement community where the average age of a resident is 73.
“We’re certainly not a cookie cutter development. It’s like living on a permanent cruise or living in the Ritz Carlton. That’s what I’ve heard from more than one of our residents in our sister communities,” said Allan. “That’s what we’re really doing. We want to provide what you’d find in a luxury hotel except there is that wonderful piece of mind that if something does happen healthwise, you can stay right here.”
The Stayton at Museum Way is a not-for-profit organization owned by Tarrant County Senior Living Center Inc., a division of Senior Quality Lifestyle Corp. The Texas-based company also owns sister communities Edgemere in Dallas, The Buckingham in Houston’s Memorial neighborhood and Querencia at Barton Creek in Austin, which opened in November 2007 and is home to former University of Texas head football coach Darrell Royal and his wife, Edith.
According to Allan, each of the sister communities has an extensive waiting list. He expects The Stayton will be sold out before its 2010 expected opening.
Greystone Communities, an Irving-based development company that has worked with more than 400 senior living communities nationwide, will manage The Stayton.
The concept for Senior Quality Lifestyle was the brainchild of Charles B. Brewer, its CEO and president. A native of Dallas and graduate of Southern Methodist University’s School of Law, Brewer is a corporate turnaround guy. His business experience runs the gamut from real estate to oil and gas, from the mortgage industry to financial services in the United States, Canada and abroad.
Brewer said he started his company 10 years ago to benefit a charity or a nonprofit. The Edgemere, located in the Park Cities area of Dallas, was Brewer’s initial first-class lifestyle retirement project, which opened in 2001.
“My idea was to plan it, finance it, build it, open it and turn it over for someone else to manage it and we’d go on about our lives. We were too successful,” said Brewer.
The Stayton is Brewer’s first mid-rise project. He said a mid-market life care community is on the launch pad for Corpus Christi, and he is scouting other mid-market sites throughout Texas.
Allan said the life care plan includes a high-quality living environment and peace of mind if skilled nursing care is ever needed for seniors ages 62 and older as well as estate preservation with a refundable one-time entrance fee.
A predictable monthly fee for maintenance also is charged.
“Most people don’t grasp the term ‘senior living community,’” said Allan. “When we say senior living community, we mean living. This is a place, people have told us, where life gets better.”
Activity on the rise at The Stayton at Museum Way
BY BETTY DILLARD
March 24, 2008
Ground has not broken yet on The Stayton at Museum Way – Tarrant County’s only resort-style life-care retirement community – but activity is brisk at the development’s recently opened sales and information center in Fort Worth’s Cultural District.
Construction is expected to begin in late fall 2008 on the project, located near downtown on West Seventh Street across from the Montgomery Plaza mixed-used development and just blocks down from the West 7th and Museum Place projects, all of which are transforming the near west side of the city into a trendy blend of business, homes and culture.
“We’re excited to be in the heart of it all, within this new urban village neighborhood. Our location is a big advantage to seniors looking for a life care community,” said Matt Allan, senior living counselor for The Stayton.
Allan said that interest is building at The Stayton, which opened sales offices and a presentation gallery three weeks ago.
“We’ve had tremendous success in our first three weeks. We’re completely booked with appointments for the next three weeks, have made some sales already and have several residences committed,” Allan said.
Built around a life-care concept, The Stayton will consist of three 11-story interconnected towers featuring 188 upscale residences ranging in size from 850 to 2,200 square feet and common areas. The majority of the homes will provide independent living – most of the apartments have patios with sweeping views of downtown or the Museum District – while the lower levels will provide assisted living, memory support and skilled nursing care.
The amenities are what might be found in a country club setting: vaulted ceilings, floor-to-ceiling windows, granite countertops, high-end appliances, a health club and spa, swimming pool, fine dining, a library, Internet access, housekeeping and concierge services.
Throw in lots of fun, engaging activities, and it’s easy to forget this is a retirement community where the average age of a resident is 73.
“We’re certainly not a cookie cutter development. It’s like living on a permanent cruise or living in the Ritz Carlton. That’s what I’ve heard from more than one of our residents in our sister communities,” said Allan. “That’s what we’re really doing. We want to provide what you’d find in a luxury hotel except there is that wonderful piece of mind that if something does happen healthwise, you can stay right here.”
The Stayton at Museum Way is a not-for-profit organization owned by Tarrant County Senior Living Center Inc., a division of Senior Quality Lifestyle Corp. The Texas-based company also owns sister communities Edgemere in Dallas, The Buckingham in Houston’s Memorial neighborhood and Querencia at Barton Creek in Austin, which opened in November 2007 and is home to former University of Texas head football coach Darrell Royal and his wife, Edith.
According to Allan, each of the sister communities has an extensive waiting list. He expects The Stayton will be sold out before its 2010 expected opening.
Greystone Communities, an Irving-based development company that has worked with more than 400 senior living communities nationwide, will manage The Stayton.
The concept for Senior Quality Lifestyle was the brainchild of Charles B. Brewer, its CEO and president. A native of Dallas and graduate of Southern Methodist University’s School of Law, Brewer is a corporate turnaround guy. His business experience runs the gamut from real estate to oil and gas, from the mortgage industry to financial services in the United States, Canada and abroad.
Brewer said he started his company 10 years ago to benefit a charity or a nonprofit. The Edgemere, located in the Park Cities area of Dallas, was Brewer’s initial first-class lifestyle retirement project, which opened in 2001.
“My idea was to plan it, finance it, build it, open it and turn it over for someone else to manage it and we’d go on about our lives. We were too successful,” said Brewer.
The Stayton is Brewer’s first mid-rise project. He said a mid-market life care community is on the launch pad for Corpus Christi, and he is scouting other mid-market sites throughout Texas.
Allan said the life care plan includes a high-quality living environment and peace of mind if skilled nursing care is ever needed for seniors ages 62 and older as well as estate preservation with a refundable one-time entrance fee.
A predictable monthly fee for maintenance also is charged.
“Most people don’t grasp the term ‘senior living community,’” said Allan. “When we say senior living community, we mean living. This is a place, people have told us, where life gets better.”
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This looks awesome!
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 11:44 AM
Those things are hidious. They look like Soviet Block high rises. Not to mention they are going to obscure the view of DT from the west side. Honestly they look like they belong in a suburban office park.
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 04:13 PM
That's the real rendering? Or is that a still from the set of "JJ Meets Mr. Rogers"? (Good Times ref.)
AG, you're such a kidder.
Actually, they look very nice. It belongs in Miami, but still very nice.
Yuppers, that's gonna take someone's view away. Shame, because I'm sure half the residents there will most likely STILL not be able to see the DTFW skyline from their east facing pads.
Ooops.
AG, you're such a kidder.
Actually, they look very nice. It belongs in Miami, but still very nice.
Yuppers, that's gonna take someone's view away. Shame, because I'm sure half the residents there will most likely STILL not be able to see the DTFW skyline from their east facing pads.
Ooops.
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Well, I have to admit, I am not a fan. The front view isn't so bad, but that side view - egad. All the visual attractiveness of a camel. With gingivitis.
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I don't care for the renderings really one way or another. But to me, this type of design almost always looks better in person versus on paper. I certainly won't dog them until I see the finished product.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 03:31 PM
I do like how they are all connected with the window skybridge. Looks more like a Corp. HQ building to me.
IRONICALLY, this KIND of NEW development really takes away the VITALITY of the NEW 7th St. APPEAL.
I don't see the camel part???
IRONICALLY, this KIND of NEW development really takes away the VITALITY of the NEW 7th St. APPEAL.
I don't see the camel part???
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I don't see the camel part???
It wasn't meant literally, man.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 04:11 PM
Been lurking on this thread for awhile....
Does anyone think it's strange that this is going to be a retirement community? Are there enough upper-class seniors willing to buy these units? Seems to me the property would do better without age restrictions.
Thoughts?
Does anyone think it's strange that this is going to be a retirement community? Are there enough upper-class seniors willing to buy these units? Seems to me the property would do better without age restrictions.
Thoughts?
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I think the way the Trinity Terrace units have sold so quickly shows there's a market for this sort of thing.
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QUOTE (Atomic Glee @ Jun 11 2008, 06:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I have to admit, I am not a fan. The front view isn't so bad, but that side view - egad. All the visual attractiveness of a camel. With gingivitis.
If the front side is the skinnier side, then I agree (if not, then not). The skinny side, front or not, looks okay; not really my style, but okay. When I think about it, though, that really seems only to be based on the roof. Cover that, and that side is really quite boring. Interesting how even a fairly simple flourish - taking brief advantage of a trusty French curve on a building otherwise designed using only a T-square - can change one's perception of a building. Maybe I'm just easy that way.
The wider side I don't find very appealing at all. The images that come to mind are of waffles and Legos, and my tired little mind waffles between seeing a mediocre design and an entirely poor design much like that old optical illusion appears alternately to be a vase or a pair of faces.
QUOTE (avvy @ Jun 11 2008, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Been lurking on this thread for awhile....
Does anyone think it's strange that this is going to be a retirement community? Are there enough upper-class seniors willing to buy these units? Seems to me the property would do better without age restrictions.
Thoughts?
Does anyone think it's strange that this is going to be a retirement community? Are there enough upper-class seniors willing to buy these units? Seems to me the property would do better without age restrictions.
Thoughts?
Not sure if they're in the right demographic, but I know at one time Fort Worth was considered a popular spot for retired military to settle. This may have been when they still had access to the hostpital at what was then Carswell AFB, but I'm sure there are still quite a few around. They may not be upper-class, but they probably don't have to worry about their pension being under-funded like some people do. And some are double-dipping. Also it seems like there have been stories about retirees moving here from parts of the country with higher taxes and higher costs of living.
Sure, opening the property to a broader market would result in more potential buyers for each unit, but it wouldn't necessarily be a good idea. One of the features and appeals of these developments is the services offered that are target specifically for seniors - for instance, medical services. Having the complex filled with seniors who are more likely to value those service (and who are therefore more willing to pay for them) is more efficient.
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Those things are hidious. They look like Soviet Block high rises. Not to mention they are going to obscure the view of DT from the west side. Honestly they look like they belong in a suburban office park.
I agree!But I think if they are stacked on top of each other, it would solve all those problems.
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 08:37 AM
Have done a post on the Stayton at Fort Worthology with more info and photos. Construction will begin this year with an opening in 2010.
http://fortwortholog...-at-museum-way/
A few images of the model:
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Are these clothing optional as well? 
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One would imagine (hope?) not.
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I have criticisms, though. The minute you start staggering buildings and pulling back from the street, they become suburban. Bad form.
Also, the layout of sidewalk and trees is very suburban. It should be street - trees - sidewalk, never street - sidewalk - trees.
Also, the layout of sidewalk and trees is very suburban. It should be street - trees - sidewalk, never street - sidewalk - trees.
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Also, the layout of sidewalk and trees is very suburban. It should be street - trees - sidewalk, never street - sidewalk - trees.
Could you elaborate on this? What is the theory that dictates this form as superior to the other? Are there specific effects known to follow from using one rather than the other?
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Could you elaborate on this? What is the theory that dictates this form as superior to the other? Are there specific effects known to follow from using one rather than the other?
Putting trees on the outside edge of the sidewalk, in an orderly row, between pedestrians and cars, is the preferred technique in urban settings. It provides a barrier between cars and pedestrians and helps to create a sense of enclosure along the streetscape as the trees mature (it also provides a psychological incentive for drivers to slow down as the trees become larger). It is the difference between landscaping that is both functional and attractive, and landscaping that is merely used to "pretty up" something.
It is a very old technique that can be found all over the world, including quite a few of the better settings in central Fort Worth, but especially past World War II it was largely abandoned in the United States as landscaping shifted to being used primarily for making things "green" or "pretty" with little regard for functionality. Especially in suburban settings, where landscaping grew to be used less for functionality and more as a "pretty" cover for failings of design and architecture (the infamous berm with juniper shrubs walling off the blank sides of half the Targets and Wal-Marts in the country, for the most prominent example).
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It provides a barrier between cars and pedestrians and helps to create a sense of enclosure along the streetscape as the trees mature (it also provides a psychological incentive for drivers to slow down as the trees become larger). It is the difference between landscaping that is both functional and attractive, and landscaping that is merely used to "pretty up" something.
Thanks, that was what I was looking for.
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I have criticisms, though. The minute you start staggering buildings and pulling back from the street, they become suburban. Bad form.
Also, the layout of sidewalk and trees is very suburban. It should be street - trees - sidewalk, never street - sidewalk - trees.
Also, the layout of sidewalk and trees is very suburban. It should be street - trees - sidewalk, never street - sidewalk - trees.
Some have said the "superblock" like City Place. Its a bad forum. Staggering buildings like the Stayton is now bad forum. This remind me of my ex girlfriend was she was "high maintenance". For the life of me I see nothing wrong with staggering buildings. I see it as open space . Opening a otherwise narrow canyon. I like to see more of it in fact. And someing different for a change.
Suburban is to me is identical houses with a overpowering garage door. And a small tuck away front door. To each his own.
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The staggering of those buildings also makes for more dwelling units with views.
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When is the ground breaking expected? Also, where is the footprint for this complex. Is is to be built next to the Lancaster bridge?
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Putting trees on the outside edge of the sidewalk, in an orderly row, between pedestrians and cars, is the preferred technique in urban settings.
I think it's preferred because in most established cities do it's the *only* way -- there's no room between the sidewalk and the buildings, land is too expensive, and the little strip by the curb is the only room left.
There's a great nearby example of how NOT to do a sidewalk: along Samuels Ave in front of Charles E Nash Elementary. They had to tear up the old street and sidewalk for the Trinity Bluffs/Villa de Leon construction, so they put in a nice new sidewalk. They also put in young trees between the sidewalk and the school. The trees are almost like bushes, haven't been trimmed, so it's almost impossible to walk on the new sidewalk! Every few feet you have to almost step out into the street to avoid the small trees.
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I think it's preferred because in most established cities do it's the *only* way -- there's no room between the sidewalk and the buildings, land is too expensive, and the little strip by the curb is the only room left.
As I explained right after saying that, it is a traffic calming/space definition technique, not especially because there's no room to do it any other way.
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I have criticisms, though. The minute you start staggering buildings and pulling back from the street, they become suburban. Bad form.
Also, the layout of sidewalk and trees is very suburban. It should be street - trees - sidewalk, never street - sidewalk - trees.
Also, the layout of sidewalk and trees is very suburban. It should be street - trees - sidewalk, never street - sidewalk - trees.
Some have said the "superblock" like City Place. Its a bad forum. Staggering buildings like the Stayton is now bad forum. This remind me of my ex girlfriend was she was "high maintenance". For the life of me I see nothing wrong with staggering buildings. I see it as open space . Opening a otherwise narrow canyon. I like to see more of it in fact. And someing different for a change.
Suburban is to me is identical houses with a overpowering garage door. And a small tuck away front door. To each his own.
I pretty much agree with all of this. The buildings aren't that offensive to me. FTR, Atomic Glee is right about the landscaping being suburban.
My objection to the project all along has been the age segregation aspect of the building. It just seems like it will create a huge concentration of one age group and I don't believe that's necessarily the best for any neighborhood, be it young or old. Krys Boyd of Think (kera) had a guest on several weeks ago about this; I can't find it right now but if I do i'll come back and edit. The guest made very good arguments as to how a community benefits from a variety of ages. Ok, i'm off the soapbox now.
The buildings are ok.
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WOW!! 140 of 188 units have already pre-sold. Construction is set to begin within the next month.
Here is the article from the Star-Telegram:
http://www.star-tele...ry/1642225.html
Here is the article from the Star-Telegram:
http://www.star-tele...ry/1642225.html
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Yes, my mom's cousin and her husband are one of the 140 pre-sold unit owners and have talked 4 other couples into moving in! I am excited for them! After having lunch with her this week and hearing more about it I'm so glad that this is available to serve this particular niche of the residential market.
There was a large 'ground-breaking' dinner hosted recently, catered by Chef Tim Love and his Love Shack So7 where a number of the new tenants gathered. Many retired citizens from Fort Worth's medical community will be residing here, among others. If my grand parents were still living I have no doubt they might have considered retiring here as well. My grandfather was a surgeon here in Fort Worth for many years as well as the Editor for the Tarrant County Physician magazine.
Can't wait to be among the first to have access to these! This particular architectural design will merge well with all of the new South 7th Street development, in my opinion.
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By the way, are they discriminating by age at this facility or can anyone of any age who wants to pay for these particular amenities of a retirement/assisted living center purchase a unit? Seems to me that this type of facility is perfectly okay in this location, with there being plenty of other apartment/townhome/condo options all up and down West 7th Street and in downtown for that matter, that anyone of any age may purchase/rent. Just because the majority of the folks purchasing units at The Stayton may be older doesn't mean they are in any way less of a citizen than anyone else, they may just have different needs are are willing to pay for such services to accomodate them here. Just sayin....
There was a large 'ground-breaking' dinner hosted recently, catered by Chef Tim Love and his Love Shack So7 where a number of the new tenants gathered. Many retired citizens from Fort Worth's medical community will be residing here, among others. If my grand parents were still living I have no doubt they might have considered retiring here as well. My grandfather was a surgeon here in Fort Worth for many years as well as the Editor for the Tarrant County Physician magazine.
Can't wait to be among the first to have access to these! This particular architectural design will merge well with all of the new South 7th Street development, in my opinion.
Mary BessBy the way, are they discriminating by age at this facility or can anyone of any age who wants to pay for these particular amenities of a retirement/assisted living center purchase a unit? Seems to me that this type of facility is perfectly okay in this location, with there being plenty of other apartment/townhome/condo options all up and down West 7th Street and in downtown for that matter, that anyone of any age may purchase/rent. Just because the majority of the folks purchasing units at The Stayton may be older doesn't mean they are in any way less of a citizen than anyone else, they may just have different needs are are willing to pay for such services to accomodate them here. Just sayin....
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It looks like a tower crane is going up today.
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The first tower crane is up and now they are working on the second.
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Posted 25 January 2010 - 09:49 AM
Good to see progress being made on this project. Shocked to hear of a 2nd crane, I would have guessed one would have been enough.
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Anyone with a camera willing to get some shots of the construction?
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It's a bad picture, but it's something.
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Didn't an old grain elevator use to be located on this site?? Seems like I remember this from an old photo or something...
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QUOTE (mbdalton1 @ Mar 27 2010, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Didn't an old grain elevator use to be located on this site?? Seems like I remember this from an old photo or something...
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Mary BessIt was either the McCordy or McCurdy peanut elevator and silos. Explosive demolition was used to bring the structure down and it did not go as planned.
Here are two articles:
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http://news.google.c...;pg=5073,766962
A wrecking ball was brought in to finish off the demolition if I recall correctly. I could be mistaken about that, though.
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Does anyone have any cgi's with the stayton and downtown for the backdrop ? any tall, simi "tall" buildings are greatly needed.
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Posted 18 June 2010 - 11:15 PM
any new pictures
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Thanks, Eric_T! Very interesting!
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any new pictures
This falls under the category of delayed response. Took this shot on my walk today. Hope to get closer soon. This does give you some idea of the progress as this is taken
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I managed to get this shot of the Stayton construction today, July 26, 2010:
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 07:27 PM
I count 11 floors already there. How high are they supposed to go?
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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:06 PM
Looking at the models posted earlier in this thread, I'd say there will be twelve stories, with the curving roof covering floor twelve. Also looks like floor twelve will be for the mechanical equipment.
So...if that's true it looks like the tower in my photo is close to topping out.
So...if that's true it looks like the tower in my photo is close to topping out.
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Posted 28 July 2010 - 10:16 PM
I got a few more construction progress shots of the Stayton today, 28 July 2010, from on and under the Lancaster Street bridge:
First shot is another view of the tallest tower to date of the three going up:
West and middle tower a bit behind in height than the taller east tower:
First shot is another view of the tallest tower to date of the three going up:
West and middle tower a bit behind in height than the taller east tower:
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I took this shot of the Stayton Construction this afternoon from 38 in the Burnett Plaza building.
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:44 PM
Taken from the roof of the Chesapeake Building on Dec 2, 2010.
This complex does sure enough represent a lot of living quarters. Makes me sure wonder about the occupancy of the Trinity Terrace complex. Must have sold out. (would you have started this enterprise if you thought Trinity Terrace was hurting for residents?)
This complex does sure enough represent a lot of living quarters. Makes me sure wonder about the occupancy of the Trinity Terrace complex. Must have sold out. (would you have started this enterprise if you thought Trinity Terrace was hurting for residents?)
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