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#1 Austin55

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 04:47 PM

There's plans to build a two way protected bike lane on 10th, which would be the first of it's type in the city. The lanes would go from Forest Park, where they would connect to the trails, and lead up the hill to Penn street. Construction would start as River Tower wraps up. 

 

 

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Posted 02 July 2016 - 11:15 PM

Fantastic!
Great post Austin55

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Posted 05 July 2016 - 06:41 AM

Those expressing safety concerns at the City Council make good points.  I'm all for the bicycle lanes on 10th.  In fact, that's the route I always take in my pedaling commute to and from my downtown office.  I always say a "Hail Mary" when crossing Forest Park...maybe construct a bike/pedestrian bridge at that location?

 

Then, again, there is the Seventh Street bridge a bit further north that crosses over safely; unfortunately (for me), my office is too far south to make that convenient.



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Posted 05 July 2016 - 09:33 PM

Then, again, there is the Seventh Street bridge a bit further north that crosses over safely; unfortunately (for me), my office is too far south to make that convenient.

10 - 7 = 3. So 3 blocks is too far to ride a bike in a protected bike lane?
I suppose you wouldn't be happy until every street has protected bike lanes. 
Not even bike friendly Netherlands have protected bike lanes on every street. 

 



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Posted 05 July 2016 - 09:48 PM

Physically, it is only one block between 7th and 10th Streets at Forest Park Blvd.  Due to the grid shift in downtown, 8th and 9th don't continue through. 



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Posted 06 July 2016 - 01:34 PM

Not meaning to sound offended by Post#4 comment, but it makes me sound like I'm tired or lazy.  Hey, my bicycle commute to and from my home and office is almost 9 miles, and I try to do that twice a week (and now it's hot out there...I'm not 25 any more).  Yes, it's only a block north to 7th.  But my logic always directs me in a straight path...and going north in order to go south is not a straight path.  You can do it leisurely in a car, but I strive for the straightest path when huffing on a bike.



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Posted 07 July 2016 - 05:57 PM

People who don't get it probably never ride a bike to work, john.


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Posted 07 July 2016 - 09:36 PM

I do not have the opportunity to commute to work on bicycle, but I have taken short cuts and not ridden out of my way to save miles in my past, so I do understand.  I have also crossed Forest Park on 5th, the new 7th Street Bridge, and on 10th Street.  I think this is a connection that should have been made years ago.



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Posted 08 July 2016 - 10:07 AM

Post-script:  On my way biking to work yesterday morning I got another flat so had to walk the rest of the way, about 6 miles.  Then, like a long-distance hero, I decided to walk home from downtown...9 miles.  Took me 4 and a half hours, stopping frequently for shade and water!  Whew. Now, I appreciate my bicycle.



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Posted 08 July 2016 - 09:33 PM

Not meaning to sound offended by Post#4 comment, but it makes me sound like I'm tired or lazy.  Hey, my bicycle commute to and from my home and office is almost 9 miles, and I try to do that twice a week (and now it's hot out there...I'm not 25 any more).  Yes, it's only a block north to 7th.  But my logic always directs me in a straight path...and going north in order to go south is not a straight path.  You can do it leisurely in a car, but I strive for the straightest path when huffing on a bike.

I didn't intend to make you feel lazy. Even you admitted it was a safer crossing on 7th vs 10th.  I'm all for building protected bike lanes IF bicyclists will use them. But it seems foolish to me for the city to spend lots of money building protected bike lanes when bicyclists would rather ride in unprotected bike lanes or no bike lanes at all one block away.   :(



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Posted 05 February 2017 - 08:44 AM

The proposed sidewalk on 10th is being narrowed.  Below is a link to Sandra Baker's Star-Telegram article.

 

http://www.star-tele...e130702749.html



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Posted 31 August 2017 - 05:46 AM

While riding my bike to work this morning I noticed that work has begun on the new sidewalk along the north side of 10th Street from Fournier Street to Forest Park Boulevard.  After the sidewalk is completed work to upgrade the bike lanes will begin, I'm guessing.  



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Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:04 AM

At the forum lunch, Ann said that one group that was really pushing the pedestrian access was the Trinity Terrace folks.  They want better access to the river.


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:18 PM

 

...Unfortunately, this puts you [Cyclists] on James Ave., which is a fairly busy street.....

 

I would like to see at least Sharrows on the right lane and Bikes May Use Full Lane signage each way along James.....That's the problem I think is that you can't (can you?) use an access road as part of a bike route.  But I used it a lot, both ways (with and against the traffic flow).

 

Which leads me to this question - what is the safest way to ride a bicycle in automobile traffic; with the traffic at your back or facing the traffic?



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Posted 05 April 2018 - 03:35 PM

Riding against traffic is exponentially more dangerous because it hugely shortens reaction times.


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 06:59 AM

Riding against traffic is too scary for me.  But riding with your back to traffic is scary, too, because you never know when a motorist is distracted by texting and the auto swerves into you.


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 09:27 AM

This is why we need more physically-separated on-street bike lanes of the kind that places like Austin, Portland, Chicago, and NYC are doing.


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 09:36 AM

That's why I stick to riding trails and not streets, but I realize that's not always an option for people that are riding for transportation vs. people riding for leisure like me.



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Posted 06 April 2018 - 09:49 AM

Riding against traffic is too scary for me.  But riding with your back to traffic is scary, too, because you never know when a motorist is distracted by texting and the auto swerves into you.

 

 Either way, there will be risks to factor in; however the game of baseball may serve as an analogy:

 

 The batter while facing the pitcher is able to see the approaching ball and can react in most instances and duck away from the pitch; but when the player is running from first base or any other base, the runner can not see a ball coming towards his body or head, frequently the runner can be hit be the thrown ball.

 

My conclusion is that facing traffic is a better situation.  Your eyes are an addition to the eyes of the motorist thus the meeting has the benefit of dual vision.

 

I was thought to always face traffic as a pedestrian and in this case a cyclist.  In fact, motorist must yield the right away to a pedestrian or a cyclist.  Motorist should always be in control of their vehicles.






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