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#1 Volare

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:35 AM

A very interesting article in the ST regarding the possible move of F&R Distilling from their industrial setting in the Near Southside out to a forgotten golf course in an increasingly revitalizing southeast Fort Worth.

 

It will be interesting to see where the neighborhood opinion ends up on this. It is certainly a departure of sorts for F&R who look to be attempting to attract distillery tourists who could inject a ton of money into the area.

 

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 12:46 PM

That's a really weird move.  Whatever.

 

They never have felt to me to be as much a part of the district as, say, Rahr.


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Posted 23 May 2014 - 09:10 AM

.....regarding the possible move of F&R Distilling from their industrial setting in the Near Southside out to a forgotten golf course in an increasingly revitalizing southeast Fort Worth...... It is certainly a departure of sorts for F&R who look to be attempting to attract distillery tourists who could inject a ton of money into the area.

 

Wow, an encouraging and impact fill shot to the morale of a part of the city which must be revitalized.  Fort Worth will truly be a greater city when the negative perceptions of areas east of the I-35 concrete curtain are overcome.

 

Keep Fort Worth folksy.



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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:05 PM

I love the area. I grew up near Rolling Hills (attended Glencrest MS) and still have many relatives who live near the golf course and I hate the idea. There are still many really nice homes in this neighborhood and I'd like to see something that compliments the area versus what I feel is a give up.



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 12:13 AM

What happened to the country club?



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 10:01 AM

Maybe the distillery is going to grow its own grain.



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Posted 25 May 2014 - 06:03 PM

If you've been to any small distillery in Scotland, then you know exactly what they are trying to do. They aren't big industrial things, rather they are typically in pastoral settings with lots of land, and many low warehouses around the property storing the aging product.



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Posted 03 June 2014 - 09:02 PM

Sigh...

 

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 11:22 PM

Maybe F&R should open discussions with the owners of the vacant Hemphill Street property formerly known as Our Lady of Victory.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 06:31 AM

F&R is approaching the City Council to see about changing the zoning of the golf course. They are asking folks to write their City Council members and sign the online petition.

 

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:31 AM

@RD Milhollin - The VAC is not a big enough lot.  The property is adjacent to two elementary schools (GC Clarke and Our Lady of Victory).  And that is my 'hood.  If that happened I would personally stand in front of the crews. 

 

I'm not morally opposed to any distillery; in fact, I would love to drink local spirits.  But I understand the opposition - Glen Garden has a big place in local and golf history as Ben Hogan's course.

 

However, the beauty of Southeast Fort Worth needs to be seen by the rest of the city, and if a distillery is going to bring real revitalization, that is a good thing. 

 

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 12:15 PM

If I were going to move in there, I'd consider making part of the land a distillery and remodeling 9 holes and package a distillery tour with a round of golf on the course.  (Or maybe even fit the distillery in with the full 18 holes).


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:02 PM

If I were going to move in there, I'd consider making part of the land a distillery and remodeling 9 holes and package a distillery tour with a round of golf on the course.  (Or maybe even fit the distillery in with the full 18 holes).

The text of the petition from F&R indicates that keeping some parts of the course as functional is part of the plans.



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Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:21 PM

It's indicated as a possibility.  Why is it only a possibility and not official?  Is this a zoning issue?


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Posted 10 July 2014 - 01:36 PM

Dunno. I imagine they don't want to commit to it at this point since it won't be the core business.



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Posted 14 July 2014 - 09:40 AM

The latest: http://www.star-tele...jPcbvw.facebook

 

Apparently the NIMBY folks would prefer another Wal-Mart of perhaps a trailer park.



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Posted 14 July 2014 - 10:13 AM

The latest: http://www.star-tele...jPcbvw.facebook
 
Apparently the NIMBY folks would prefer another Wal-Mart of perhaps a trailer park.


This is a great case study on the importance of reaching out to neighborhood leaders very early on in any project that is likely to be controversial, especially if that neighborhood or surrounding area has a history of disenfranchisement.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 03:21 PM

The City Council vote on this topic is tonight at 7:00 PM at City Hall.  It's going to be a long night since the Arena issue and the Stockyards Temporary Zoning is on the agenda.



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 06:33 PM

That's what happens when they take a month off from doing business.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 06:42 PM

Channel 4 News at 6 stated that the meeting will probably go past midnight.  I was down there for a few minutes, but as soon as I walked into the Council Chamber, I was told to go to the overflow room (Pre-Council Meeting Room).  I was supposed to meet some people from Historic Fort Worth to speak on the Stockyards issue, but I didn't get a chance to see if they were in the chamber.  In the overflow, it was already standing room only, so I went out to the atrium to text HFW people to see if they were even in the building.  Overflow filled up, then the atrium filled up and we were asked to go to the Basement Conference Room.  I finally decided that I was only going to speak, if necessary.  I deemed it not necessary, and now I'm at home watching it on my computer.



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 09:14 PM

The City Council has just voted 7-2 in favor of changing the zoning on Glen Garden Country Club to allow the distillery to move there.  The case started around 8 PM and it took about 2 hours to get to the vote.  The Stockyards issue is yet to be discussed.



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Posted 15 July 2014 - 09:21 PM

Wow, very pleasantly surprised. Who voted against? Ann Zedah may be wondering what she signed up for after this epic meeting.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 09:24 PM

I was really not expecting the vote to be quite that lopsided (understanding full well that minds were likely made up ahead of time).

There is now a major challenge put forth to the new owner/distiller and Council to go out of their way to reach out to people in the neighborhood (and other key stakeholders) to calm their concerns snd make them feel involved in the property/course's future.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 09:24 PM

That's great. It still seems like an odd move for the distillery, but I hope it works out for the best.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 10:23 PM

.... a major challenge put forth to the new owner/distiller and Council to go out of their way to reach out to people in the neighborhood (and other key stakeholders) to calm their concerns snd make them feel involved in the property/course's future.

 

 What are their concerns?  Is the distillery any worse than Miller Brewery? Is it on equal footing to the brewery?



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Posted 03 September 2014 - 08:06 AM

And yet the debate continues...

 

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 09:01 AM

Put the distillery at Z Boaz.  We'd love to have it over there.



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Posted 05 September 2014 - 09:30 AM

Probably not the tranquil atmosphere they are looking for with the base nearby.

 

Besides the dog people would be furious. :smwink:



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Posted 05 September 2014 - 12:51 PM

Probably not the tranquil atmosphere they are looking for with the base nearby.
 
Besides the dog people would be furious. :smwink:


On the contrary, "Hey Honey, I'm taking the dog to the dog park." Then when I get there, well maybe I can just do the tour....
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Posted 08 September 2014 - 08:35 PM

Mayor Price:

 

 

"I feel like it will bring a lot of attention to the city. It will bring a lot of tourists in, a lot of people who want to see the venue, and it will help showcase that area out there,” Price said. “They wanted economic development. It is great economic development.”

 

 

She could have said East Fort Worth, Rolling Hills, the Cobb Park area, or any other descriptor.  I'm sure residents didn't appreciate being referred to in this way.

I wouldn't like the mayor of my city to call my part town "that area down there" or something like that.


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 09:04 AM

She could have used a better descriptor, or the writer could have cut the quote off at 'that area'. I'm sure that small quote from the article would work much better in the context of the whole conversation. 


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Posted 27 May 2016 - 10:55 AM

City of Fort Worth abandons street right of ways in order to allow Firestone and Robertson to move forward with re-platting for their distillery on the old Glen Garden Golf Course:

 

http://www.star-tele...le79895927.html

 

It has been two years the last public move on this project, approved over the objections of surrounding neighbors. The owners are planning to move the entrance off of Glen Garden Drive and onto Mitchell, addressing some of the traffic concerns. Good to see the project is moving forward.



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Posted 08 November 2017 - 12:25 PM

Firestone and Robertson have put together a pretty nice set up at the old country club:

http://www.fortworth...0d8311071b.html

When this first came up a few years ago, it was advertised as a move, but the article indicates that's it's a second distillery location.

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 04:57 PM

Still 18 holes, pretty cool. I think this is going to turn into a pretty big get, especially for events and Tourism.

They've been advertising pretty heavily on the radio.

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 05:23 PM

I heard a commercial on The Ticket 5 minutes ago.

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 05:26 PM

Same. I think it's on every break. And it's rush hour currently.

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 10:47 AM

I'm glad they are keeping the Vickery location open. I walk over there from the office to pick up another bottle or two when my supply is low.


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Posted 07 October 2022 - 06:29 PM

Looks like some big investments are in store, 

 

 

Amend site plan for PD 1016 Planned Development/Specific Use for distillery and associated uses, restaurant, retail, guest cottages, events, and a security residence with “I” Light Industrial development standards and with a waiver for height, plus A-21 uses to add new warehouse building; site plan included 

 

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Posted 10 October 2022 - 08:04 AM

Should have inserted this in the thread when it happened.... Alas:

https://www.spglobal...ma1byicu3oekrq2



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Posted 12 October 2022 - 06:34 AM

Should have inserted this in the thread when it happened.... Alas:

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"Whiskey Ranch brewing facility near Fort Worth"

 

Should read:  "Whiskey Ranch distilling facility in Fort Worth"


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Posted 29 December 2023 - 03:38 PM

I thought these "Barns" looked interesting, almost like a really big / cheap hotel with all the windows.  Does anyone know the reasoning behind all the windows?  Does it have something to do with the whiskey making process?

 

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This is an impressive site plan by the way.  Too bad there's a gas well site right next to the distillery.

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Posted 29 December 2023 - 10:07 PM

I was curious too. Looks like the windows help with heating. Source below. From taking distillery tours in the past, I know heat fluctuations help with whiskey maturation.

https://blog.heavenh...tant-rickhouse/

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Posted 29 December 2023 - 10:43 PM

I was curious too. Looks like the windows help with heating. Source below. From taking distillery tours in the past, I know heat fluctuations help with whiskey maturation.

https://blog.heavenh...tant-rickhouse/


Thanks for finding this info about Rickhouses. The article mentions the importance of air circulation and talks about the myriad chemical changes occurring within the oak.

I would be curious if any pollution from the nearby gas well site glycol hydrators is able to penetrate the oak barrels with VOCs such as formaldehyde, benzene or carbon disulfide and make its way into the whiskey?




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