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#24645 Fort Worth South

Posted by johnlp on 10 April 2006 - 12:45 PM in Fort Worth & Dallas Urban Photos

What building is this???
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Was it a Masonic Lodge once? I noticed the Masonic Logo on both ends.

John



#24045 Before the Convention Center

Posted by johnlp on 30 March 2006 - 11:04 AM in Local History

QUOTE(safly @ Mar 30 2006, 09:58 AM) View Post

And what is that making all of that shadow play along the walls of the Medical building?
Bed sheets hangin out to dry?



The windows are open on certain floors. I think they angled out from the bottom at a 45 degree angle. Either that or some windows had awnings on them. No real sure my self.
I may be wrong but I believe that the MA never had AC.



#23946 Picture the US Army's Original Camp Bowie in 1918

Posted by johnlp on 29 March 2006 - 09:14 AM in Local History

Does this help?
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#23905 Before the Convention Center

Posted by johnlp on 28 March 2006 - 04:16 PM in Local History

QUOTE(austlar @ Mar 28 2006, 03:36 PM) View Post

It would be very interesting to learn of your impression of growing up in the area. I always felt that people dismissed too easily the fact that there were actually people living down there, interesting people. The media always caricatured the place in a very one dimensional way.


Such as calling it "Hells Half Acre"?
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#23887 Should the Blue Flame be restored?

Posted by johnlp on 28 March 2006 - 01:58 PM in Historic Buildings and Preservation

QUOTE(Jack White @ Mar 28 2006, 01:45 PM) View Post

JohnPuff...how about the neon flag?

Go to:

http://www.fortworth...tw/neonflag.jpg

Jack



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Oh my sweet Lord in heaven........................NO!
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#23882 Burnett Park - in Odd Old Saturated-Vision

Posted by johnlp on 28 March 2006 - 01:29 PM in Fort Worth & Dallas Urban Photos

Here is a more "treeless" view from 1929
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Looks like the Annex is still under construction. NOTE that the fire escape has not yet been installed! smile.gif



#23865 Before the Convention Center

Posted by johnlp on 28 March 2006 - 10:44 AM in Local History

Here is a birds-eye view of the area. smile.gif
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#23782 Demolition of the Landmark Tower (380 ft., 420 with clock)

Posted by johnlp on 27 March 2006 - 11:03 AM in Fort Worth Architecture

QUOTE(John T Roberts @ Mar 26 2006, 06:22 PM) View Post

Here's a comparison of how the skyline looks with and without the Landmark Tower. The first picture is from October 22, 2005.
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March 24, 2006
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John,
From what vantage point did you take those photos? smile.gif



#23695 Demolition of the Landmark Tower (380 ft., 420 with clock)

Posted by johnlp on 25 March 2006 - 10:22 AM in Fort Worth Architecture

and to hink that was once a grand 30 story building! blink.gif



#23660 FW skyline and CBS11

Posted by johnlp on 24 March 2006 - 03:41 PM in Fort Worth Architecture

QUOTE(ochona @ Mar 24 2006, 02:47 PM) View Post


then like when ralphie in "a christmas story" throws down the queen of all curse words...i said the unthinkable...





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#23634 CNB Clock History

Posted by johnlp on 24 March 2006 - 06:24 AM in Local History

I'd like that! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif



#23614 Should the Blue Flame be restored?

Posted by johnlp on 23 March 2006 - 09:07 PM in Historic Buildings and Preservation

QUOTE(DrkLts @ Mar 23 2006, 07:40 PM) View Post

QUOTE(bailey @ Mar 23 2006, 02:26 PM) View Post

If my memory serves me, the blue neon on the outside of the flame was timed to flicker on and off so that it looked like a flame.


Sure it wasn't just a bad neon tube? Some neon signs "flicker" right before they burn out
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Point well made! tongue.gif



#23599 Should the Blue Flame be restored?

Posted by johnlp on 23 March 2006 - 05:50 PM in Historic Buildings and Preservation

QUOTE(John T Roberts @ Mar 23 2006, 05:08 PM) View Post

You guys are bringing back all of my memories of old vintage signs. Does anyone remember the big "W" at Westcliff Center?


Indeed I do and it still exist in a local warehouse in town. I worked at the Piggly Wiggly back in the 80s and my Dad had his Real Estate office on the South West Corner.

You use to be able to get a burger, fries and a malt at Moreland's Drug Store and who can forget Dale's Barber Shop??

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#23591 Should the Blue Flame be restored?

Posted by johnlp on 23 March 2006 - 04:49 PM in Historic Buildings and Preservation

QUOTE(bailey @ Mar 23 2006, 03:59 PM) View Post

QUOTE(johnlp @ Mar 23 2006, 03:34 PM) View Post

WOW. I never knew they used a natural gas flame on the Wedgewood Sign. Must have predated me. The one I remember was metal with red & orange neon. I think it had the intials WW (Wedgewood) or WS (Wedgewood shopping center) or something to that effect.

Regarding "Ol' Blue", folks around the office here remember the flame "flicked" to some extent so memory has served me correct on that.

Still trying to determine its age, when it was installed, etc.

I think XTO should take a vested interest in this inconic symbol of their industry! biggrin.gif


The shopping center was called Wedgwood Village. The sign with the torch was on the Wedgmont Circle N. side just across the street from the old Wot A Burger, not to be confused with What A Burger. We moved 3 blocks from there in 1958 and it was the first major shopping center built in Wedgwood. As a kid, I always thought the torch was a neat deal.


WV That was it! smile.gif



#23584 Demolition of the Landmark Tower (380 ft., 420 with clock)

Posted by johnlp on 23 March 2006 - 03:39 PM in Fort Worth Architecture

QUOTE(bailey @ Mar 23 2006, 02:52 PM) View Post

Build it and they will come. biggrin.gif


Yes! Hear the words of Shoeless Joe Jackson! rotflmao.gif

I agree with ya bailey! biggrin.gif



#23582 Should the Blue Flame be restored?

Posted by johnlp on 23 March 2006 - 03:34 PM in Historic Buildings and Preservation

WOW. I never knew they used a natural gas flame on the Wedgewood Sign. Must have predated me. The one I remember was metal with red & orange neon. I think it had the intials WW (Wedgewood) or WS (Wedgewood shopping center) or something to that effect.

Regarding "Ol' Blue", folks around the office here remember the flame "flicked" to some extent so memory has served me correct on that.

Still trying to determine its age, when it was installed, etc.

I think XTO should take a vested interest in this inconic symbol of their industry! biggrin.gif



#23568 An Open Letter to XTO Energy

Posted by johnlp on 23 March 2006 - 01:50 PM in Ideas and Suggestions for Projects

Build a really nice, tall structure that towers over the skyline (centering it up visually) and cap it off with a really cool modern clock with XTO on two sides and the time on the other two! rotflmao.gif





#23566 Should the Blue Flame be restored?

Posted by johnlp on 23 March 2006 - 01:19 PM in Historic Buildings and Preservation

I might be mistaking when I said..
"it not only was illuminated at night and rotated, it "flickered" like a flame...almost a mesmerizing, bordering on psychedelic, display of blue and white neon."

I do know it was illuminated but I might be wrong on the "flickering" aspect. I do know that there was a sing in the Wedgewood Shopping Center back in the 60s and 70s that had a flame (a candle) that flickeded wildly. We could see it from my house off South Dr.

Was the Blue Flame "flashy" or was it staticly lit at night? It's been so darn long I can't remember!

Initialy I think I was correct the first time but after talking to my wife she said she did not ever recall it "flickering".

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#23533 Downtown FW Snippets - II

Posted by johnlp on 22 March 2006 - 09:44 PM in Fort Worth & Dallas Urban Photos

Nice PICS! smile.gif I like the Gas Building entrance!



#23530 Should the Blue Flame be restored?

Posted by johnlp on 22 March 2006 - 08:25 PM in Historic Buildings and Preservation

Glad to see I am not the only one that likes "ol' Blue". smile.gif



#23513 Should the Blue Flame be restored?

Posted by johnlp on 22 March 2006 - 04:34 PM in Historic Buildings and Preservation

Let's see if either John Robert's or Jack White can help with some historical facts.

I know the Clock came in 1957
Conoco was around 1962????
SLC (later WSL) around 1966.

I have photos that show the Blue Flame prior to the install of Conoco and SLC/WSL. So I guess what I want to know, is the Blue Flame older than the clock? If so, It would be the oldest if not, it would be the second oldest and last to survive!



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#23501 Should the Blue Flame be restored?

Posted by johnlp on 22 March 2006 - 03:22 PM in Historic Buildings and Preservation

QUOTE(ghughes @ Mar 22 2006, 03:07 PM) View Post

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Am I simply romanticizing a worn out broken piece of blue metal?
Of course you are!
But I'm right with you there.

Who owns it? What's wrong with it?


City of Ft. Worth Water Department now owns the building (I guess we can call the flame a "water drop" now)!
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I'm sure if it was powered up, nothing would happen. An access panel on the upper side edge of the flame has been open for some time. For many years the panel door hung open, now the panel is gone (might have come off during the tornado).

It looks like most of the neon tubes are busted and no telling if the rotation mechanism even works.
Actually, it looks quite simple in design. I'd like to get a close up of the internal workings of it.

My logic is that Dallas salvaged (actually replaced with a replica) the Pegasus on the magnolia building and MobilOil has long been gone from the building.
Why can't Ft. Worth salvage the former icon of Lone Star Gas?

In fact, I think (I could be wrong) that the only reason Dallas saved the Pegasus is because of the public out cry over the proposed removal many years ago.

Unless Ft. Worth voices a desire (so far just the two of us) I would imagine that the Blue Flame will be removed soon for being "an eyesore"! dry.gif

Then again, code compliance comes into the picture. Is it's current state compliant? Would it be compliant if it was operational again? Moreover, are the current owners willing to pay the cost of restoration OR would that be a city paid expense? wink.gif

I'd like to think this forum could be the catalyst to save it! cool.gif



#23495 Should the Blue Flame be restored?

Posted by johnlp on 22 March 2006 - 12:56 PM in Historic Buildings and Preservation

You all know me well enough to know that I have a passion for the vintage roof signs. All of which are now gone with the exception of our old friend The Blue Flame.
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Of all the old signs in Downtown Ft. Worth, this one would seem to be the easiest one to restore………(or would it)?
For those of you who might not remember the Blue Flame in its prime, it was a "bling-bling" sign! rotflmao.gif
..meaning, it not only was illuminated at night and rotated, it "flickered" like a flame...almost a mesmerizing, bordering on psychedelic, display of blue and white neon.
We know we can never have the CNB clock again or the WSL (SLC pre 1973) forecast sign and let us not forget the red and white Conoco inverted triangle surrounded by the Continental Life red neon letters. smile.gif
I would think that "ol' Blue" would be sort of an eternal flame of the Ft. Worth Skyline, a sign and symbol maybe worth restoration. Thoughts???

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Am I simply romanticizing a worn out broken piece of blue metal?

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#23441 Cullen Davis Mansion/Hulen

Posted by johnlp on 21 March 2006 - 04:29 PM in Commercial

QUOTE(vjackson @ Mar 21 2006, 04:19 PM) View Post

What's become of the old mansion??? Anyone know??


It is now a church. The last time i was in it, it was a resturant. The time before was a month prior to the shootings (the summer of 76). I was a friend of Andrea Wilborn.



#23439 Demolition of the Landmark Tower (380 ft., 420 with clock)

Posted by johnlp on 21 March 2006 - 04:25 PM in Fort Worth Architecture

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QUOTE(Bradleto @ Mar 20 2006, 11:48 AM) View Post

I was driving eastbound on I-30 a few hours after the implosion and as I looked toward downtown, I was amazed at how very different Fort Worth looks with that much vertical mass suddenly erased. Someone earlier aptly described it as a "missing tooth." Brad


Anyone have any photos of the "new skyline"? I'm curious to see if the missing building is that noticeable.



When I drive in from Keller in the morning it now looks like the Carter Bugess building is all off to itself to the left of the rest of the buildings. LOL

It's all preseption. From some directions you would never the know the CNB is gone! dry.gif